[newfette]

but i dont want to be a nurse..


I never said all nurses were like that.. I'm just saying this woman put nurse ratchet to shame and should have more patience on a saturday night

[Blue_Nose]

Or perhaps one shouldn't be wearing open shoes to the bar

[newfette]

it was summer... lol

and they were cute

[DerbyX]

lily lily:

Drunk driver swerves in front of a van, killing everyone except for the baby. In the ER, the drunk is loudly complaining about the baby's cries, demanding that someone "shut that baby the f*ck up".

Any nurse that can keep her cool when hearing crap like that gets my respect, even when she's later rude to someone else.

Is that an actual event that happened?

[Scape]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Because it's socialized medicine and they don't have to worry about losing customers (also known as patients) to their competition.

They can treat you however they want (up to a point) and get away with it because, in practicality, you really have no recourse.

[marq=left] Bullshit!!! [font=Arial] [/font][/marq]

How is this any different that any other service industry? Tell me Bart how wonderful is customer service in the cell industry in the good ol' free market US of A?

He can complain but there is a demand for skilled labour that all but guarantees job security at this point. She should get a slap upside the head for her lack of professionalism but I would rather have my life in the hands of a rude but skilled nurse than a polite trainee given the choice.

[Banff]

lily lily:

Drunk driver swerves in front of a van, killing everyone except for the baby. In the ER, the drunk is loudly complaining about the baby's cries, demanding that someone "shut that baby the f*ck up".

Any nurse that can keep her cool when hearing crap like that gets my respect, even when she's later rude to someone else.

Ouch ! sorry lily but thats an insane way of looking at it and I wouldn't agree with you in the least . I was so angry I managed to mow the lawn when I got back, when I should have taken it out on her , It wasn't the lawns fault . But at least mowing the lawn was a positive thing . Rude to someone else just doesn't cut it .

[Scrappy]

Banff Banff:

Okay yesterday I was asked to come in early today for a stress test . I show up 12 minutes late so its okay for others to go before me but the damn cardio nurse was rude . She actually had the nerve to walk up to me and say that since I am a half hour late the person for the 9:30 appointment would go before me . I looked at my watch and it was 9:18 . I thought that was an acceptable thing for the other person to go before me (afterall I was a little late ) so I agreed , but yesterday I was on time for 2 scheduled appointments and both times the doctors were late and even ran several people before me ... 2 different lies were told to me and my wife , as to why they were behind schedule . Anyhow after they finally got me in for my appointment today , the same nurse slices me open with a razor which I never noticed but she manages to cover it with electric stress test pad . Well after the Gerbil stress test (jogging on treadmill) she tore off the pad and ripped skin off . All she had to say was oops I injured you . She quickly got a little bandage . When I got home I looked at the bandage and the skin was ripped off all around the bandage plus blood spots where hair was pulled out . WHAT THE F**K IS WRONG WITH THE STAFF AT THE SWIFT CURRENT HOSPITAL If the patient is their neighbour or they personally know them they actually let them in ahead of other people (fact) end rant .

I'm not looking for sympathy but if you have your own horror story I'd like to hear it and I know you have one so don't be shy .

Your horror story reminded me of an incident that I witnessed. Many years ago my husband's back went out, he was in great pain and the result of the pain was trajectory vomiting. I managed to get him to the base MIR and he was placed in a room, but he was vomiting so much that he and the bed were covered in it. There was a male in the room and I yelled "Nurse, nurse I need a bed pan" the response I got was "I am the base surgeon not a nurse" I replied I dont' fucking care who you are get me a god damn bed pan. He walked out of the room and left my husband hurling vomit at the walls, he never came back. A nurse did thou and she kept thanking me for calling the doctor a nurse, this asshole had a nasty rep for being a snob and a prick. Every proffession has them.

[PluggyRug]

Last year I went through a series of tests for Parotid gland cancer.
I never had to wait more than 15 minutes past my appointed time, the staff were always courteous, one nurse was downright funny.

Banff,...your nurse was just having a bad day.

[Banff]

Scrappy Scrappy:

Banff Banff:

Okay yesterday I was asked to come in early today for a stress test . I show up 12 minutes late so its okay for others to go before me but the damn cardio nurse was rude . She actually had the nerve to walk up to me and say that since I am a half hour late the person for the 9:30 appointment would go before me . I looked at my watch and it was 9:18 . I thought that was an acceptable thing for the other person to go before me (afterall I was a little late ) so I agreed , but yesterday I was on time for 2 scheduled appointments and both times the doctors were late and even ran several people before me ... 2 different lies were told to me and my wife , as to why they were behind schedule . Anyhow after they finally got me in for my appointment today , the same nurse slices me open with a razor which I never noticed but she manages to cover it with electric stress test pad . Well after the Gerbil stress test (jogging on treadmill) she tore off the pad and ripped skin off . All she had to say was oops I injured you . She quickly got a little bandage . When I got home I looked at the bandage and the skin was ripped off all around the bandage plus blood spots where hair was pulled out . WHAT THE F**K IS WRONG WITH THE STAFF AT THE SWIFT CURRENT HOSPITAL If the patient is their neighbour or they personally know them they actually let them in ahead of other people (fact) end rant .

I'm not looking for sympathy but if you have your own horror story I'd like to hear it and I know you have one so don't be shy .

Your horror story reminded me of an incident that I witnessed. Many years ago my husband's back went out, he was in great pain and the result of the pain was trajectory vomiting. I managed to get him to the base MIR and he was placed in a room, but he was vomiting so much that he and the bed were covered in it. There was a male in the room and I yelled "Nurse, nurse I need a bed pan" the response I got was "I am the base surgeon not a nurse" I replied I dont' fucking care who you are get me a god damn bed pan. He walked out of the room and left my husband hurling vomit at the walls, he never came back. A nurse did thou and she kept thanking me for calling the doctor a nurse, this asshole had a nasty rep for being a snob and a prick. Every proffession has them.

This reminds me of when I went into emerg just 3 weeks ago . The ER Doc didn't intro himself and was walking around aimlessly staring at me so I thought he was a janitor and asked him to get me some water . Never seen him again and then the one which did see me is a cardiac/intern Doctor. I don't know what that is but he's not very good. and his record for conversation with me was about 60 seconds . Like Bart hinted I believe our well trained have gone elsewhere for more money and we don't have any educated doctors in rural Sask . they remind me of Veternarians . Swift Current has such a nice new shinny good sized hospital but the staff really sucks bad .

[BartSimpson]

DerbyX DerbyX:

$1:

And how long can that continue that the health care system will continue to operate at a net deficit?

Its not actually operating at a deficit. It makes a profit but provides free services.

But you said...

$1:

Every Canadian receives more medical care then they actually pay for yet few realize this fact.

How can every Canadian receive more than they pay for? That can only happen if the system runs a deficit.

DerbyX DerbyX:

$1:

I prefer to pay for my medical care and not for the medical care for six or seven other people as well.

Keep your socialism and we'll keep our capitalism, thank you.

Fine. I'm not the one denigrating the US system nor saying that you should adapt our system.

My comment was rhetorical, not personal. Sorry.

DerbyX DerbyX:

You however seemed to make a comment on the inadequacies of our system based upon a single incident of something that I know happens in your healthcare system also.

Be fair now.

I've never held any opinion other then its only your countries buisness what system it uses and noone elses. I may have defended ours against yours in comparison but I didn't denigrate your method nor hold the opinion that you should adopt our model.

Both do what they are designed to do. Ours provides affordable and dependable healthcare to everyone while yours provides a varying level of care based proportionally on how much a person can/wants to spend.

NP.

[DerbyX]

$1:

DerbyX wrote:
Quote:
And how long can that continue that the health care system will continue to operate at a net deficit?



Its not actually operating at a deficit. It makes a profit but provides free services.


But you said...

Quote:
Every Canadian receives more medical care then they actually pay for yet few realize this fact.



How can every Canadian receive more than they pay for? That can only happen if the system runs a deficit.

It works something like this. Since my job is do run all manner of lab tests of blood I'll use that as an example.

We have a contract with the province to provide medical testing to X number of doctors/clinics/hospitals.

We get paid Y amount per test but that amount is capped. Lets say our contract specifies we will get paid $5.00 per glucose test but caps the total amount payable to $50000 per month.

Thats enough funds for 10000 glucose tests per month. We are obligated to take all glucose test requests from all doctors in our area of responsibility. If the number of glucose tests is less then 10000 then we get paid less then $50000. If it exceeds 10000 then we must do all tests but receive a maximum of $50000 regardless of how many tests it goes over. We pass this cost on to our vendors.

Unless it exceeds it by a huge margin we will still make a profit but it allows "cost-certainity" for the province.

In Ontario there are 3 private labs that perform about 99% of all testing for clinics and doctors offices. Collectively well provide over $50,000,000 in free services to the citizens of the province.

Every medical facility does the same thing because their billing works just like ours does.

Quite frankly its a fact that escapes most CDNs and is overlooked badly.

$1:

My comment was rhetorical, not personal. Sorry.

No problem. You have worked hard all your life and built a good living. You deserve the fruits of that effort. If you want to pay extra so you get that knee surgery Tuesday instead of 2 months from tuesday then its your right.

Personally I agree. I've always felt that our system works better when supplemented by private health care. Its actually a position that the Liberals support but I digress.

[BartSimpson]

DerbyX DerbyX:

$1:

DerbyX wrote:
Quote:
And how long can that continue that the health care system will continue to operate at a net deficit?



Its not actually operating at a deficit. It makes a profit but provides free services.


But you said...

Quote:
Every Canadian receives more medical care then they actually pay for yet few realize this fact.



How can every Canadian receive more than they pay for? That can only happen if the system runs a deficit.

It works something like this. Since my job is do run all manner of lab tests of blood I'll use that as an example.

We have a contract with the province to provide medical testing to X number of doctors/clinics/hospitals.

We get paid Y amount per test but that amount is capped. Lets say our contract specifies we will get paid $5.00 per glucose test but caps the total amount payable to $50000 per month.

Thats enough funds for 10000 glucose tests per month. We are obligated to take all glucose test requests from all doctors in our area of responsibility. If the number of glucose tests is less then 10000 then we get paid less then $50000. If it exceeds 10000 then we must do all tests but receive a maximum of $50000 regardless of how many tests it goes over. We pass this cost on to our vendors.

Unless it exceeds it by a huge margin we will still make a profit but it allows "cost-certainity" for the province.

In Ontario there are 3 private labs that perform about 99% of all testing for clinics and doctors offices. Collectively well provide over $50,000,000 in free services to the citizens of the province.

Every medical facility does the same thing because their billing works just like ours does.

Quite frankly its a fact that escapes most CDNs and is overlooked badly.

$1:

My comment was rhetorical, not personal. Sorry.

No problem. You have worked hard all your life and built a good living. You deserve the fruits of that effort. If you want to pay extra so you get that knee surgery Tuesday instead of 2 months from tuesday then its your right.

Personally I agree. I've always felt that our system works better when supplemented by private health care. Its actually a position that the Liberals support but I digress.

I appreciate your comments - thank you.

[Motorcycleboy]

DerbyX DerbyX:

Personally I agree. I've always felt that our system works better when supplemented by private health care. Its actually a position that the Liberals support but I digress.

WHAT?
Derby, c'mon.

The worm has definately turned.

About 18 months ago, I was advocating some element of private involvement in the Canadian health care system as per the Conservative's proposals.

You adamantly opposed me on that. In fact, every suggestion I ever put forward in argument was met with derision and shrill cries about "Harper's Americanization of Canadian Health Care."

Since that time, I've had some personal involvement with the health system.

Quite frankly, I was well served.

Further, I've been made aware of some not so stellar examples of the health care system in Australia and Europe that didn't particularly impress me.

Further, I've since learned that the United States, per capita, spends twice the amount of money Canadians do on health care, yet 40 million Americans lack insurance and more than 40 million are totally pissed off with their HMO.

Yet suddenly, because the government's changed, you've decided the Health Care System is in need of reform.

Forgive my cynicism Derby, but grow up.

There's nothing wrong with the Canadian system. Keep it the way it is.

And stop shilling for the Libs Derby, it's embarassing you.

[ShepherdsDog]

I've always been for supplementary health care. While some left wingers incorrectly label it jumping the line, I see it as shortening the line. Those that can afford private alternatives should be allowed access to them, while those who are less fortunate, or societal parasites, can use the government funded services. Private MRI clinics are a good example of this. Every hospital has its own MRI and CT here in Taiwan.

[canucker]

I didn't agree when it was first proposed but I'm leaning that way now as well Shep.

I work in healthcare as well. I've worked in hospitals and private clinics. I prefer working in private clinics but with regards to healthcare workers who are unprofessional, you see them everywhere. I think it's more as a personality flaw as opposed to a healthcare flaw. I, of course, am always very friendly and professional. I like to treat each patient as I would a family member. But there are some patients out there who also have "personality flaws" and they are the toughest to deal with. You just have to learn to be assertive with them; not bitchy, but politely assertive. I've worked with some real bitches and assholes as well, and just shake my head. You can't change their personality, and maybe they aren't always like that, but if that is your job, and you hate it that much, consider changing careers then.

I've been on both sides of the healthcare industry, and just as it is in life, there are assholes everywhere and in every industry.