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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:43 pm
 


Dude has to be back on the Benzos again. He’s spouting straight Russian propaganda now.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:14 pm
 


I'm more amazed that any hipster wokeholes support Ukraine at all, given that the Zelensky government refuses to recognize non-op men trying to self-identifying as women in order to escape the military duty that's applied to all Ukrainian males in age from the late teens to the mid-fifties since the fucking Russian pigs first invaded. The poor trans dear hearts don't get a female exemption from being drafted under the rules of the emergency declarations and in several incidents have been rounded up at gunpoint by the Ukrainian army & police and forced into service. As some wag here on CKA actually, and incredulously, once said this is THE absolute most vital civil liberties issue of our time. Maybe Canada should add Ukraine to the list of countries to have reduced relations with for not having our hyper-enlightened view of the trans. That would mean having to make a frowny face at about 90% of the other countries on the planet but, y'know, yadda yadda why can't they all be as nice as us yadda. ROTFL

PS: Jordan Peterson is a nut - pro-Trump, pro-alt-right, & pro-KKKonvoy, and he basically used his Twitter account to launch some sort of quasi-seditious hate campaign against Justin Trudeau. He's so insane that if he was on the left he'd have his own wildly popular & thoroughly insane TikTok account that was so batshit he'd most likely get mistaken for an elementary school teacher.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:20 am
 


It's a shame, because Peterson used to have some pretty good points. But somehow he went down the anti-LGBTQ2+ rabbit hole, and used his clinical psychological training to try to justify it.

And the points in the video show why he's wrong. Early intervention helps young people who don't understand their emotions from becoming suicidal, and saves lives. Pretending these things don't exist, or in the case of many hard right ideologies - pretending everyone is heterosexual only, cost the lives of children as much as adults.

I recall a ~2500 year old grave unearthed in the UK, where two Roman soldiers were buried together, holding hands. People who aren't heterosexual have been with us for a long time. We have been taught to hate them, and have to unlearn that hate.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:45 am
 


Thanos Thanos:
The poor trans dear hearts don't get a female exemption from being drafted under the rules of the emergency declarations and in several incidents have been rounded up at gunpoint by the Ukrainian army & police and forced into service.


More of your bullshit. Women are conscripted into the Ukrainian armed forces, just the same as men.

Ukraine Requires Women to Register for Military Conscription as Russia Threat Looms

There are no reports of any women or trans person being conscripted at gunpoint.

You know who you are starting to sound like, right?


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lol lol lol lol lol trannies were made to report for duty right from the beginning of the invasion as part of Ukraine's "ALL males of fighting age will serve" rules and the Ukrainian government does not recognize them as women :lol:

https://valiantnews.com/2022/03/ukraine ... ht-report/

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Ukrainian transgender women – biological males who believe they are female – are reportedly being prevented from fleeing the war in Ukraine because of a law that bars military-aged men from leaving the country, according to multiple reports.

Reports say transgender women who have not changed their legal documents to reflect their condition are being stopped at Ukraine’s borders and are ultimately sent back, as their passports or identification documents show that they are, in fact, biological males.

Activists have noted that the problem is occurring with both transgender males and females, but mostly impacts the biological males who believe they are women.

“The situation is very hard because the LGBTQ+ community was feeling marginalised and discriminated against before the war began,” said Igor Medvid, a coordinator for HPLGBT.

Critics blame the situation on “lawful transphobia” supported by the Ukraine government.

“Many people say that when they attempted to cross the border, the border police and the border guards are making their decision based on the gender marker in the passport,” said one person, “We consider this as another example of lawful transphobia.”

Some have resorted to intentionally “losing” their identity documents and other extreme measures to flee the war.


https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/pa ... 01fb95be27

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Trans women in Ukraine want to leave the country but are trapped and fear they will be conscripted because their identification classifies them as male.

All Ukrainian men aged between 18 and 60 have been banned from leaving the country due to the Russian invasion. The move was imposed by the State Border Guard Service last week in a bid to protect the country.

But this move has left Ukrainian trans women stranded.

Speaking to Vice World News, Zi Faámelu, a trans woman from Kyiv said she cannot leave the country and her life is in danger.

“Like hundreds of trans people in Ukraine, I am a woman, but I have ‘male’ in my passport and on all my ID, so this is a war within a war. Ukrainian trans people were already fighting for their lives,” Faamelu said.

“There are hundreds of us stuck like this, living miserable lives. We need some influence from abroad. We need people to write to their politicians and charities to help us.”

The woman is still classified as a man on her government documentation.

She added she did not change her ID because the process in Ukraine was “humiliating” and said some people were forced to stay in hospitals for months to “prove their gender”.


I left all the words in these articles as is, unchanged. Unmolested, so to speak, unlike what happens to children who get unfortunately get within arm's length of certain types of people because of their ultra-cool parents now far concerned with being seen as good allies to the cause than they are in their own offspring's safety. So, no partying it up for the duration of the war in bacchanalian safety at Drag Queen Happy Hour in some Berlin nightclub for you, "ladies", you're off to the front with the rest of the XY's.


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lol lol lol lol lol trannies were made to report for duty right from the beginning of the invasion as part of Ukraine's "ALL males of fighting age will serve" rules and the Ukrainian government does not recognize them as women :lol:

I left all the words in these articles as is, unchanged. Unmolested, so to speak,


Except, that wasn't what you wrote in the part I quoted, was it?

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a female exemption from being drafted under the rules of the emergency declarations


Women fight for their country too. I can show you video from the current Ukrainian front lines. It's bullshit.

Thanos Thanos:
unlike what happens to children who get unfortunately get within arm's length of certain types of people because of their ultra-cool parents now far concerned with being seen as good allies to the cause than they are in their own offspring's safety. So, no partying it up for the duration of the war in bacchanalian safety at Drag Queen Happy Hour in some Berlin nightclub for you, "ladies", you're off to the front with the rest of the XY's.


Yes, you've been saying some pretty hateful things about people because of the way they are born, And you've been randomly accusing people of abusing children too. Remember that next time you go all drama queen about your 'free speech'.


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Yeah, and your gang came at me hardcore, four on one, for dissenting. With you leading the charge with your "be nice or else" comment, you goddamn bully. Like any of you four twats have any sort of moral high ground at all. The only real duty in the life of any adult male is to stand up when needed for women and kids when they're in peril. You four "men" though? All four of you would throw anyone, no matter how much danger they're in from abusive sickos, under the fucking bus just because it's the thrill of the moment according to our disgusting social & pseudo-intellectual "elite".

I spit on all four of you.


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Thanos Thanos:
Yeah, and your gang came at me hardcore, four on one, for dissenting. With you leading the charge with your "be nice or else" comment, you goddamn bully.


No, not for dissent. Because you are wrong. You are wrong about what it means to be 'different' than the cultural norm. What it means when you are born one way, but society wants you to act another. And I have never made any such comment. Quote me, or it never happened. And if you think I can bully you from the other side of this keyboard, then you have lost the plot. You know accusing Tricks, or anyone, of crimes again children is very much against the rules. One of the few rules around here regarding what people can write. You knew that, and you posted it anyway, taunting me to do something about it. Poor persecuted you. Well, your wish was granted. Get off the cross, we need the wood.

Being gay is not enjoying dressing like a woman and flaunting another personality in public. Neither is being trans. Nor is being queer. That you don't know the difference is why you think everyone is picking on you. It's not up to us to deprogram you. Question whoever it is that has been feeding you bullshit. Try, for once, to prove a single thing they have taught you. Dissent is welcome here. Hate and anger are not. Perhaps you should review the differences as a refresher.

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Like any of you four twats have any sort of moral high ground at all. The only real duty in the life of any adult male is to stand up when needed for women and kids when they're in peril.


Then why won't you stand up for the children who are not born in the right skin? Why do you call them 'groomers'? Why don't you care that they have the highest rate of suicide in their age groups? Why do you insist on peddling falsehoods that people have been using against them for generations? I have shown you that Libs of Tic Tock is just another hate group run under a different banner. How do you not clue in?

Morality is never attacking those below you. Calling you on your bullshit is not attack, it's debate. That's what we've been doing around here for decades. But suddenly everyone thinks they should be able to write whatever they want, unchallenged. Guess what? We've never done that in these parts. Go to Maple Leaf Web if you want 'yes' men. Or Truth Social. They will eat whatever shit you throw them.

The rest of us have brains. You used to have a brain, but you let someone make you angry so they could fill it with hate. I want the old Thanos back.

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You four "men" though? All four of you would throw anyone, no matter how much danger they're in from abusive sickos, under the fucking bus just because it's the thrill of the moment according to our disgusting social & pseudo-intellectual "elite".


Bingo! We have a winner of buzzword bingo!

Except, like I showed you, there are no 'deranged sickos' coming for the children. If there were, I'd be first up with the baseball bat. But you are just following a typical conspiracy. That's why I asked if you knew who you sounded like. Flat earthers. Climate deniers. Pretty much anyone who espouses an ideology that is not based in fact. Remember those? Facts? Things that are provable? Data? Not innuendo that someone who might dress in drag had some kiddie porn, so that means there is a cabal of pre-surgical trans women looking to recruit for some naughty videos for the soon-to-be-in-kindergarden.

Or whatever that fucking nonsense has evolved into this week.

Thanos Thanos:
I spit on all four of you.


That's how far you've fallen. For a conspiracy. It's so sad to watch, some people have already put you on their ignore list over this. I might have to as well, and that would make me really sad Jim. But it's my responsibility to read the site, looking for violations of the rules. But there is only so much hate I can stand.

Let me ask you this - do you think that any of us don't know someone who is Trans? I do. Nicest person I know. Good at their job. Can't get an apartment because people persecue them, so they live in their van in the staff parking lot. The owner is kind that way. And I am far from the only one. And none of the insults you hurl their way is remotely true.

Do a thought experiment. What if we are right? What if you are peddling hate all willy nilly? Are you good with that? Does that make you complete? Spit at me all you want, because if you are good spreading hate, then I value you less than that spit.


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I was on the same side with you guys most of the time. Not just when Trump arrived either. But as far back as when Obama got elected. At least nine out of ten times we were together on things. Multiple threads created over the years by me prove that without a doubt.

That one out of ten times I don't go along with you, because I rightly think you've lost your goddamn minds? You turf me out, deliberately ignore every single bit of counter-opinion and counter-fact to what that I've posted to dispute that which you've fallen for, and you put your little heads together and decide among yourselves that I'm just another part of the Great Right Wing Conspiracy?

I've been jumped before in the past, four or five on one, both online and in real life. I know all too well what that experience is like. What you guys did to me over the last couple of months is identical to it. Learn what that feels like and you never forget it ever.

Maybe you people need the actual real fascists to win it all someday soon. It might be what it takes for you to figure out what results when you drive and actual ally away just because they've allegedly "failed" one of your ridiculous ideological purity tests.


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I was on the same side with you guys most of the time. Not just when Trump arrived either. But as far back as when Obama got elected. At least nine out of ten times we were together on things. Multiple threads created over the years by me prove that without a doubt.


It's not about 'sides'. The difference is that 10 of 10 times, there was evidence supporting our positions. This time, you have none. You have false comparisons between unrelated events that tarnish one individual, and cast shade on a group because they are a similarly culturally repressed group as that individual. Or even worse, cast shade on unrelated groups, because of a poorly made argument that these groups are similar to each other. And the one time in ten that we disagreed, you didn't accuse us of abusing children, you accepted the differences in opinion even if you didn't agree. And that is the only reason I am bothering to take the time to write this. :idea:

The posts you made are full of the indicators of conspiracy. Events happen, but there is never any sort of actual facts where the event can be corroborated. Some pre-surgical trans woman is put in prison with cis women. Where? What country? What prison? Was there any evidence of rape? Did the trans women even like women, or men? And that doesn't even matter, because men will use rape against men as a means of control. There is no way to verify anything in your stories. But I did show you work done by the Anti Hate Network to dispute those stories. Did you read it?

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That one out of ten times I don't go along with you, because I rightly think you've lost your goddamn minds? You turf me out, deliberately ignore every single bit of counter-opinion and counter-fact to what that I've posted to dispute that which you've fallen for, and you put your little heads together and decide among yourselves that I'm just another part of the Great Right Wing Conspiracy?


How are you 'out'? You are here. You are expressing your opinion, repulsive as it is. Posting hate is not against the rules here, but you are going to have to defend that hate. That is the contract you accept when you make your views public on a site where anyone can post. And no one is ganging up on you because they feel extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

This is what an intervention looks like, not 'ganging up on' you. I might be running this intervention, because you've pissed off everyone else enough that they stopped giving a shit. You can only accuse people of child abuse so many times before they stop caring what you think. Your opinions on this have no basis in left/right politics, other than authoritarianism.

And as I stated above, I tried to prove any of your 'counter facts' for which there was enough information to follow up on, and always ended up a the Anti Hate Network and similar places. That says something about the 'facts' you relied on. Try it for yourself. You might find some fact is true, like someone was arrested for something. But trying to link that back to a vast group of early child educators who are actually trans sympathizers running child sex grooming sweatshops is pretty shaky.

Thanos Thanos:
I've been jumped before in the past, four or five on one, both online and in real life. I know all too well what that experience is like. What you guys did to me over the last couple of months is identical to it. Learn what that feels like and you never forget it ever.


You have a thick skull. It is difficult to get you to see that an opinion you have formed is not based in reality. Sometimes it takes a little more force to get you to see the facts. Others have tried to convince you, others have not bothered and left you to your own company. If so many people are trying to get you to see the fallacy of your position, does that not tell you that those people care enough to try? Have you run this line of thinking past your sister? What does she think of it? Perhaps that will show you what the rest of us already know.

Thanos Thanos:
Maybe you people need the actual real fascists to win it all someday soon. It might be what it takes for you to figure out what results when you drive and actual ally away just because they've allegedly "failed" one of your ridiculous ideological purity tests.


Taking the struggles of a marginalized group out of context in order to repress them further is not 'winning'. It does not involve any 'purity' test to see facts. I have tried to show you that some group has been taking incidents by individuals and painting a group or a bunch of groups with that label. There are so many precedents in history that I don't understand why you can't make the connection. "The immigrants are coming for our jobs!" "The Jews control the world!" "The Muslims want us dead!" "The degenerates are grooming our children to be like them!"

It's not about ideology, because there is no ideology to these conspiracies. There is a simple method to defeat a normal persons' sense of logic, and that is to make them angry. When they are angry, other emotions are suppressed. That's how they get you. That's how Alex Jones, Glenn Beck, and so many others operate. Make their listeners angry, and they control what is believable despite the better judgment of the listener. And using abuse of children is likely more effective. Because we are hardwired to protect our children.

Despite the lack of any possibility of verifying any of your stories, you continue to make yourself mad by accusing people like teachers, of abusing children. Despite any evidence of it. So you lock yourself into the anger loop. Only you can break that loop.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:28 am
 


Thanos it's cool if you like watching trans porn. We aren't going to judge you for it, no need to go on the offensive. :lol:


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Not helping there, Tricks.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:44 am
 


It is a shame about Peterson, I once had a lot of respect for him.


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unless their conduct dictates otherwise.

Guy called me a pedophile. I'm pretty sure that qualifies as "conduct dictating otherwise".


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