[Strutz]

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Satellite imagery from NASA shows smoke from wildfires in the Siberian region of Russia have reached the North Pole in what the agency is calling “a first in recorded history.”

The images from NASA’s Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer (MODIS) taken on Aug. 6, show smoke blanketing 3,200 kilometres from east to west and 4,000 kilometres from north to south, effectively covering most of Russia.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/climate-and-envi ... -1.5540277

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The return of sail!!

[DrCaleb]

CDN_PATRIOT CDN_PATRIOT:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

CDN_PATRIOT CDN_PATRIOT:

The U.N. is a joke.


-J.

Another opinion someone gave you.

Negative. I've always had great disdain for the U.N.

Really? I've never seen you post your dislike of the UNICEF, when they protect and save children's lives. Or the World Food Program, when they show up in food deprived places and feed the population. Or the International Civil Aviation Organization as they ensure that regulations for civil aviators are standardized throughout the world. Or when Canada protests to the World Trade Organization about US Softwood tariffs or Country of Origin labelling.

https://www.un.org/en/about-us/un-system

CDN_PATRIOT CDN_PATRIOT:

In my mind, they are both useless and pointless at the same time. They might have had a purpose
when initially formed, but not now. Just another organization out to make money and tell member countries what to do.

-J.

Really? What is their net annual profit? What authority do they have to enforce their resolutions?

Like I wrote, an opinion someone else gave you.

[PluggyRug]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Really? What is their net annual profit? What authority do they have to enforce their resolutions?

Like I wrote, an opinion someone else gave you.

The real question should be 'what is their net annual graft'

Yes they do some good work, unfortunately this is out weighed by the massive inefficiencies in the organisation. note... one of the articles below is 5 years old although not much has changed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism ... ed_Nations

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/ ... ed-nations

[DrCaleb]

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Really? What is their net annual profit? What authority do they have to enforce their resolutions?

Like I wrote, an opinion someone else gave you.

The real question should be 'what is their net annual graft'

Yes they do some good work, unfortunately this is out weighed by the massive inefficiencies in the organisation. note... one of the articles below is 5 years old although not much has changed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism ... ed_Nations

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/ ... ed-nations

So given the IPCC board consists of unpaid volunteers, what amount of graft do you think they received for producing this report?

Casting shade on these problems is exactly how we got to here.

[DrCaleb]

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Research Article CLIMATOLOGY
The emergence of heat and humidity too severe for human tolerance


Abstract

Humans’ ability to efficiently shed heat has enabled us to range over every continent, but a wet-bulb temperature (TW) of 35°C marks our upper physiological limit, and much lower values have serious health and productivity impacts. Climate models project the first 35°C TW occurrences by the mid-21st century. However, a comprehensive evaluation of weather station data shows that some coastal subtropical locations have already reported a TW of 35°C and that extreme humid heat overall has more than doubled in frequency since 1979. Recent exceedances of 35°C in global maximum sea surface temperature provide further support for the validity of these dangerously high TW values. We find the most extreme humid heat is highly localized in both space and time and is correspondingly substantially underestimated in reanalysis products. Our findings thus underscore the serious challenge posed by humid heat that is more intense than previously reported and increasingly severe.

https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/6/19/eaaw1838

[PluggyRug]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Really? What is their net annual profit? What authority do they have to enforce their resolutions?

Like I wrote, an opinion someone else gave you.

The real question should be 'what is their net annual graft'

Yes they do some good work, unfortunately this is out weighed by the massive inefficiencies in the organisation. note... one of the articles below is 5 years old although not much has changed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism ... ed_Nations

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/ ... ed-nations

So given the IPCC board consists of unpaid volunteers, what amount of graft do you think they received for producing this report?

Casting shade on these problems is exactly how we got to here.

We were talking about the UN in general, not just one small part.

[Zipperfish]

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Really? What is their net annual profit? What authority do they have to enforce their resolutions?

Like I wrote, an opinion someone else gave you.

The real question should be 'what is their net annual graft'

Yes they do some good work, unfortunately this is out weighed by the massive inefficiencies in the organisation. note... one of the articles below is 5 years old although not much has changed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism ... ed_Nations

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/ ... ed-nations

How is a collection of most of the world's countries gathered together in a non-binding forum going to be anything but inefficient? What would you have replace the UN? How would nations talk to each other and reach treaties and agreements? OF course the UN is a wreck. The world is a fucking wreck.

[DrCaleb]

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

The real question should be 'what is their net annual graft'

Yes they do some good work, unfortunately this is out weighed by the massive inefficiencies in the organisation. note... one of the articles below is 5 years old although not much has changed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism ... ed_Nations

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/ ... ed-nations

So given the IPCC board consists of unpaid volunteers, what amount of graft do you think they received for producing this report?

Casting shade on these problems is exactly how we got to here.

We were talking about the UN in general, not just one small part.

I know. Some people like to treat the whole as the worst single part, in that case the General Assembly. This is also how stereotypes work. People who roll their eyes at mention of the 'UN' are conditioned to do so. You are doing it in order to cast the same doubt that the deniers use. 'Well, the General Assembly is a farce, so the World Food Program and the IPCC are too.'

Stop it. Time is up for action on this. The time for debate stopped when 7 of the warmest ten years ever recorded were from 2000-2010. It's been a decade since that, and many more record warm years since. It's long past time to do something, and way past time to feed the denial.

Hate the General Assembly, and/or the Security Council with it's intentionally malfunctioning processes. But their problems aren't systemic. The UN does a lot of good with many of the other programs they run.

[Zipperfish]

I think the IPCC should skip the whole "advice to policymakers" part--the non-scientific part. They're not listening anyways, and scientists are shit at explaining anything, generally. What they are doing now is creating documentation that may be useful for scientists down the road once we start to get truly fucked by climate change.

This is the sixth, and most serious, assessment report, but hasn't made a big a splash as the previous ones. Because no one in power cares. And they never have. The trick is to make grand pronouncements and do next to nothing in order to hold on to your wealth and power.

[DrCaleb]

To paraphrase Robert Heinlien: "Beware of strong drink, it can cause you to shoot at politicians and miss."

[CDN_PATRIOT]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Really? I've never seen you post your dislike of the UNICEF, when they protect and save children's lives. Or the World Food Program, when they show up in food deprived places and feed the population. Or the International Civil Aviation Organization as they ensure that regulations for civil aviators are standardized throughout the world. Or when Canada protests to the World Trade Organization about US Softwood tariffs or Country of Origin labelling.

https://www.un.org/en/about-us/un-system

CDN_PATRIOT CDN_PATRIOT:

In my mind, they are both useless and pointless at the same time. They might have had a purpose
when initially formed, but not now. Just another organization out to make money and tell member countries what to do.

-J.

Really? What is their net annual profit? What authority do they have to enforce their resolutions?

Like I wrote, an opinion someone else gave you.

Aren't we judgmental today?




-J.

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VIDEO: Largest Tire Graveyard On The Planet On Fire

[raydan]

CDN_PATRIOT CDN_PATRIOT:

Aren't we judgmental today?




-J.

...and you're not.

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