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 Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:34 am
Delwin Delwin: Israel's real purpose in Gaza operation? To kill Arabs
It's amazing just how stupid the Pali lovers can be.  If Israel really wanted to just kill them all, this would have been solved before 1967, and nothing to discuss today.
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 4:36 am
martin14 martin14: Delwin Delwin: Israel's real purpose in Gaza operation? To kill Arabs
It's amazing just how stupid the Pali lovers can be. If Israel really wanted to just kill them all, this would have been solved before 1967, and nothing to discuss today. I think even the most ardent supporters would jump ship if Israel started killing by the thousands, and those aren't my words, they are the words of an awards winning Jewish Israeli journalist who actually served on the IDF, of course you know better.
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:42 am
Delwin Delwin: Israel's real purpose in Gaza operation? To kill Arabs Uh-huh. First, the Palestinians are not actualy Arabs. While they share a religion with the Arabs and they share a common culture (to a point) the Palestinians are the genetic descendants of the Phillistines (who were the ancestors of both the Palestinians and the Carthaginians). If the Israelis actually wanted to kill Arabs then they could easily start inside of Israel where they already have a million or so Arabs living as full citizens of Israel. With that understood then the IDF is also protecting the lives of Israeli Arabs when they're trying to stop these random and indiscriminate rocket attacks. It's also a good time to point out that the IDF troops involved in this operation inevitably includes Arabs who are fighting to protect their families from the cowardly human vipers of Hamas who have been using women and children as human shields. Of course, those Arabs livng inside Israel are valid targets to Hamas because Hamas hates everyone who isn't under the control of their gangster-state. This includes Egypt because you may have missed some of the drama of the past year as Egyptian forces ran a major search-and-destroy operation in the Sinai in which some 500 to as many as 1,000 Palestinian criminals were hunted down and killed by Egyptian forces in retaliation for the murders of Egyptian military, police, and civilians in Sinai in 2012/2013. Oh, and feel free to ask Egypt to end their blockade of Gaza because the Egyptian blockade is near absolute right now while the Israelis will still allow food and medical supplies to enter Gaza even though there's a war on.
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:20 am
There origin is completely irrelevant. Although every source I have found describes them as Arabs, maybe you could provide the family trees for all 4 million of them ? Or at least a link to back up anything you have said ? I'm fine with the dictionary definition: Dictionary: Palestinian: Also called Palestinian Arab. an Arab formerly living in Palestine who advocates the establishment of an Arab homeland there. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/palestinianNot really interested in semantics though, when Right wing Israeli radicals are marching down the streets shouting death to Arabs, Palestinians are the people they are talking about. And as I said to Martin, without a conflict, it would be fairly difficult to justify the killings. Them protecting Israeli Arabs is a consequence of them protecting themselves. You are also wrong about the Egypt thing, along with everything else you just posted: Egypt Armed Forces to send 500 tonnes of aid to Gaza http://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-pa ... s-aid-gaza
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:24 am
To underline one of my points: http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/07/13/eg ... hu-video/#(Video at the link) $1: Egyptian TV Announcer Calls for Destruction of Hamas; Al-Ahram Columnist Thanks Netanyahu (VIDEO)
Officials and public figures in Egypt are beginning to call for Israel and Egypt to wipe out Hamas in the Gaza Strip, which some are calling the “armed branch of the Muslim Brotherhood terrorist organization,” that runs the coastal enclave.
A major Egyptian television news commentator savaged Hamas on Sunday for its support of the Muslim Brotherhood, and called on her country to join Israel and strike the Islamist group.
“The Egyptian people know exactly who they are facing, and understand that there is no alternative to employing the Egyptian army to strike terror cells in Gaza and destroy Hamas in a military operation,” Hayah Al Dardiri, a presenter for Egypt Today told viewers.
Another pundit, Azza Sami, of the newspaper Al-Ahram wrote, “Thank you (Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin) Netanyahu and may God give us more [people] like you to destroy Hamas.”
And the critique of Hamas wasn’t only in the media.
Writing in The Gatestone Institute, Israeli journalist and author Khaled Abu Toameh noted that, “Sisi’s Egypt has not forgiven Hamas for its alliance with (the) Muslim Brotherhood and its involvement in terrorist attacks against Egyptian civilians and soldiers over the past year.”
“The Egyptians today understand that Hamas and other radical Islamist groups pose a serious threat to their national security. That is why the Egyptian authorities have, over the past year, been taking tough security measures not only against Hamas, but also the entire population of the Gaza Strip.”
Toameh believes that Hamas was taken aback by the vehemence of some of the positive reactions to Israel’s Operation Protective Edge, which entered its sixth day on Sunday, with a possible ground incursion to foil more rockets attacks into Israel in the offing.
“It’s disgraceful to see that some Egyptians are publicly supporting the Israeli aggression on the Gaza Strip while Westerners are expressing solidarity with the Palestinians and condemning Israel,” one Hamas spokesman said in evident frustration.
Toameh contends that many Egyptians, particularly after the debacle of the rise and fall of the Muslim Brotherhood, view Hamas and like-minded groups as a direct threat to their country’s national security.
Meanwhile, Middle East negotiator and former UK prime minister Tony Blair has met with Egyptian officials in recent days in an effort to stem the fighting between Israel and Hamas through an Egyptian-brokered cease fire.
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:27 am
Delwin Delwin: There origin is completely irrelevant. Nice to see you freely embrace your deliberate and purposeful ignorance of history. Can't let any bothersome facts interrupt your fetish for hating the Jews, can you? Delwin Delwin: Although every source I have found describes them as Arabs, maybe you could provide the family trees for all 4 million of them ? Or at least a link to back up anything you have said ? http://www.rense.com/general48/palestinians.pdfFeel free to read and learn something.
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:37 am
Delwin Delwin: What is your point? Egypt views Hamas as an extension of the Muslim Brotherhood whom they are fighting in their own country, doesn't change their kinship with the Palestinian people:
Kinship?  Here's a picture of a section of the Egypt-Gaza border. The white line with the blue circled features is a border wall. The features inside the blue circles are manned gun towers. The area between the red lines is a death strip where anyone entering will be shot and killed by Egyptian soldiers. The Egyptian military has also deployed anti-personnel mines in selected places along the border - something not even the Israelis have done. The border between Egypt and Gaza is second only to the border between the two Koreas in terms of security and lethality. And you call that kinship? ![[laughat]](./images/smilies/smilie_auslachen.gif "laughing at")
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:38 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson: Delwin Delwin: There origin is completely irrelevant. Nice to see you freely embrace your deliberate and purposeful ignorance of history. Can't let any bothersome facts interrupt your fetish for hating the Jews, can you? Delwin Delwin: Although every source I have found describes them as Arabs, maybe you could provide the family trees for all 4 million of them ? Or at least a link to back up anything you have said ? http://www.rense.com/general48/palestinians.pdfFeel free to read and learn something. So according to your link, they are most closely related to Ashkenazi Jews, a Semitic people, since the Philistines were a non-Semitic group, you were wrong on that one too.
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:41 am
Delwin Delwin: So according to your link, they are most closely related to Ashkenazi Jews, a Semitic people, since the Philistines were a non-Semitic group, you were wrong on that one too. Uh-huh. Now go back and actually read the paper before making yourself look like an ass yet again.
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:43 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson: Delwin Delwin: What is your point? Egypt views Hamas as an extension of the Muslim Brotherhood whom they are fighting in their own country, doesn't change their kinship with the Palestinian people:
Kinship? Here's a picture of a section of the Egypt-Gaza border. The white line with the blue circled features is a border wall. The features inside the blue circles are manned gun towers. The area between the red lines is a death strip where anyone entering will be shot and killed by Egyptian soldiers. The Egyptian military has also deployed anti-personnel mines in selected places along the border - something not even the Israelis have done. The border between Egypt and Gaza is second only to the border between the two Koreas in terms of security and lethality. And you call that kinship? Certainly Kinship enough to offer support and supplies at a time when their respective governments hate each other, by the way, pretty sure you'll find armed guards at our border too, as well as every other land border in the world.
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:45 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson: Delwin Delwin: So according to your link, they are most closely related to Ashkenazi Jews, a Semitic people, since the Philistines were a non-Semitic group, you were wrong on that one too. Uh-huh. Now go back and actually read the paper before making yourself look like an ass yet again. I don't have too, it is completely irrelevant, first of all and the whole world calls them Arab, their are even a member of the Arab league of Nations, so your point is moot.
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:50 am
Delwin Delwin: Certainly Kinship enough to offer support and supplies at a time when their respective governments hate each other, by the way, pretty sure you'll find armed guards at our border too, as well as every other land border in the world. Where did you say the armed guards were? 
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