[hamiltonguyo]

ridenrain ridenrain:

Is that bait?
No. That's definately not what we need.
Police need to be kept on a short leash but we definetely need the judges to change their perspective.

Are you suggesting police arn't to be trusted?

I'm not saying not to watch them

merely to loosen up a bit when they are dealing with dangerous criminals

[karra]

$1:

I just have a problem paying for it.

Of course you do - you've had your hand out so long you've no pride - somewhat like auto assembly line workers, eh wot?

With any luck, this, plus the daycare hissyfits the Knee Dippers and Lieberals are engaging in, will force an election. . . .

[fatbasturd]

karra karra:

$1:

I just have a problem paying for it.

Of course you do - you've had your hand out so long you've no pride - somewhat like auto assembly line workers, eh wot?

With any luck, this, plus the daycare hissyfits the Knee Dippers and Lieberals are engaging in, will force an election. . . .

$1:

Of course you do - you've had your hand out so long you've no pride - somewhat like auto assembly line workers, eh wot?

best statement made in this thread.

[ThePolitician]

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:

Its amusing the right wing folk would never want to spend their tax dollars on social programs, crime prevention or libraries,

but are happy to spend more money on jails and police.

Helping people get educated and out of poverty by spending $40K on them might be a better investment then letting them rot in the streets and end up in jail for 10 years at a cost of about $1,000,000 dollars.

I have no problem putting criminals in jail. I just have a problem paying for it. Its tough to pay taxes when your behind bars.

How many hand outs do you have to give people Donny?

There are way too many dollars wasted in social programs that aren't used already, why throw more money in the crapper?

These people just have to get it through their thick skulls that to suceed in life you have to work hard and keep your nose clean. You don't need to come from money to make money.

[Tricks]

just ge rid of the damn gun registry, then we will have 3 billion to use

[fatbasturd]

ThePolitician ThePolitician:

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:

Its amusing the right wing folk would never want to spend their tax dollars on social programs, crime prevention or libraries,

but are happy to spend more money on jails and police.

Helping people get educated and out of poverty by spending $40K on them might be a better investment then letting them rot in the streets and end up in jail for 10 years at a cost of about $1,000,000 dollars.

I have no problem putting criminals in jail. I just have a problem paying for it. Its tough to pay taxes when your behind bars.

How many hand outs do you have to give people Donny?

There are way too many dollars wasted in social programs that aren't used already, why throw more money in the crapper?

These people just have to get it through their thick skulls that to suceed in life you have to work hard and keep your nose clean. You don't need to come from money to make money.

$1:

These people just have to get it through their thick skulls that to suceed in life you have to work hard and keep your nose clean. You don't need to come from money to make money.

Your right but not everbody is born with a silver spoon up their arse...Try getting in to any higher education system when all you have is a welfare check stub backing you up....the rules in this country are ,the rich get the breaks and the poor get just enough to keep them alive....you know it's an world image thing wouldn't look good if we didn't at least give them kool-aid and kraft dinner.

[Donny_Brasco]

Jayimcdn Jayimcdn:

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:

Its amusing the right wing folk would never want to spend their tax dollars on social programs, crime prevention or libraries,

but are happy to spend more money on jails and police.

Helping people get educated and out of poverty by spending $40K on them might be a better investment then letting them rot in the streets and end up in jail for 10 years at a cost of about $1,000,000 dollars.

I have no problem putting criminals in jail. I just have a problem paying for it. Its tough to pay taxes when your behind bars.

It is up to every person in their own to get educated. I cant hold your hand for ever, so get up and take the responsibility for your self. "Give a man a fish, he is not hungry for a day. Teach a man how to fish, he never goes hungry." People are just lazy, get up there are programs in place to help with education, so suck it up and do the research (f***in Liberals).

What are you arguing for. I just said money is better spent on education and you give me th e"Teach a man to fish" quote?

People sitting in jail are not likely to contribute to the well being of this country.

They are going to rot in there and you and I get to pay for it.

People are inherently good. If we give them the opportunity to do the right thing then they will. THe majority of people can contribute.

Lets make sure that we give people the BEST opportunity to succeed before we throw away the key and spend $70K a year to give them a fish every day.

[ThePolitician]

fatbasturd fatbasturd:

ThePolitician ThePolitician:

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:

Its amusing the right wing folk would never want to spend their tax dollars on social programs, crime prevention or libraries,

but are happy to spend more money on jails and police.

Helping people get educated and out of poverty by spending $40K on them might be a better investment then letting them rot in the streets and end up in jail for 10 years at a cost of about $1,000,000 dollars.

I have no problem putting criminals in jail. I just have a problem paying for it. Its tough to pay taxes when your behind bars.

How many hand outs do you have to give people Donny?

There are way too many dollars wasted in social programs that aren't used already, why throw more money in the crapper?

These people just have to get it through their thick skulls that to suceed in life you have to work hard and keep your nose clean. You don't need to come from money to make money.

$1:

These people just have to get it through their thick skulls that to suceed in life you have to work hard and keep your nose clean. You don't need to come from money to make money.

Your right but not everbody is born with a silver spoon up their arse...Try getting in to any higher education system when all you have is a welfare check stub backing you up....the rules in this country are ,the rich get the breaks and the poor get just enough to keep them alive....you know it's an world image thing wouldn't look good if we didn't at least give them kool-aid and kraft dinner.

Check my last sentence Fat; it says " You don't need to come from money to make money". Who says you need a post secondary education to succeed?
Even if you do, that's why there is student loans.

My family didn't have two cents to rub together, that didn't stop me or my sibling to push forward in our own careers.

[Tricks]

Fat, My dad was definately not born with a silver spoon in his mouth. When he was in high school, he worked his ass off, and I mean worked like a beast. He got a full scholarship to western. If they actually try, they can do the same, they just say they can't because they are not rich.

[Donny_Brasco]

ThePolitician ThePolitician:

How many hand outs do you have to give people Donny?

Well if its going to cost us $1,000,000 to have a person go through the legal system and end up in jail for 10 years I'd say that anything less then that and we are ahead.

Furthermore, investing in people tends to pay off by creating tax paying, working citizens.

We can close the door to people, expecially youth at risk.

We can keep our jails full.

The only think more hard time is going to do is to scare people who have committed crime so much that they'll shoot at cops and steal cars and run over innocent people to get away.

[ThePolitician]

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:

ThePolitician ThePolitician:

How many hand outs do you have to give people Donny?

Well if its going to cost us $1,000,000 to have a person go through the legal system and end up in jail for 10 years I'd say that anything less then that and we are ahead.

Furthermore, investing in people tends to pay off by creating tax paying, working citizens.

We can close the door to people, expecially youth at risk.

We can keep our jails full.

The only think more hard time is going to do is to scare people who have committed crime so much that they'll shoot at cops and steal cars and run over innocent people to get away.

Take away all of the frivoulous costs associated with our prison's these days and turn them into places that people actually detest and fear and that will kill two birds with one stone.

1 - Create a stronger deterrent for possible criminals.

2 - Keep the costs down so that 1 mil you quote is not even close.

[Donny_Brasco]

ThePolitician ThePolitician:

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:

ThePolitician ThePolitician:

How many hand outs do you have to give people Donny?

Well if its going to cost us $1,000,000 to have a person go through the legal system and end up in jail for 10 years I'd say that anything less then that and we are ahead.

Furthermore, investing in people tends to pay off by creating tax paying, working citizens.

We can close the door to people, expecially youth at risk.

We can keep our jails full.

The only think more hard time is going to do is to scare people who have committed crime so much that they'll shoot at cops and steal cars and run over innocent people to get away.

Take away all of the frivoulous costs associated with our prison's these days and turn them into places that people actually detest and fear and that will kill two birds with one stone.

1 - Create a stronger deterrent for possible criminals.

2 - Keep the costs down so that 1 mil you quote is not even close.

I think Hitler already thought of that.

[ridenrain]

I remember some study that it was not the punisment but the high chance of being caught, and punished, that was the biggest deterent.

Remember that it was the Liberals who were relying the convicts to vote Liberal.

[Tricks]

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:

ThePolitician ThePolitician:

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:

ThePolitician ThePolitician:

How many hand outs do you have to give people Donny?

Well if its going to cost us $1,000,000 to have a person go through the legal system and end up in jail for 10 years I'd say that anything less then that and we are ahead.

Furthermore, investing in people tends to pay off by creating tax paying, working citizens.

We can close the door to people, expecially youth at risk.

We can keep our jails full.

The only think more hard time is going to do is to scare people who have committed crime so much that they'll shoot at cops and steal cars and run over innocent people to get away.

Take away all of the frivoulous costs associated with our prison's these days and turn them into places that people actually detest and fear and that will kill two birds with one stone.

1 - Create a stronger deterrent for possible criminals.

2 - Keep the costs down so that 1 mil you quote is not even close.

I think Hitler already thought of that.

:roll: They do have a lot of things in prison that they shouldn't. They should hate prison, somehow, I don't think they give a flying fuck.

[ThePolitician]

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:

ThePolitician ThePolitician:

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:

ThePolitician ThePolitician:

How many hand outs do you have to give people Donny?

Well if its going to cost us $1,000,000 to have a person go through the legal system and end up in jail for 10 years I'd say that anything less then that and we are ahead.

Furthermore, investing in people tends to pay off by creating tax paying, working citizens.

We can close the door to people, expecially youth at risk.

We can keep our jails full.

The only think more hard time is going to do is to scare people who have committed crime so much that they'll shoot at cops and steal cars and run over innocent people to get away.

Take away all of the frivoulous costs associated with our prison's these days and turn them into places that people actually detest and fear and that will kill two birds with one stone.

1 - Create a stronger deterrent for possible criminals.

2 - Keep the costs down so that 1 mil you quote is not even close.

I think Hitler already thought of that.

Now you apparantley have no defence so you start shit flinging.

Are you calling people of the Jewish faith convicted criminals? Or are you just prejudice?