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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:41 am
 


This map shows a pretty clear line for western separation...


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If we do take Manitoba with us, the wall we'll have to build will be shorter... :D


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:45 am
 


Robair Robair:
If we do take Manitoba with us, the wall we'll have to build will be shorter... :D
Then we'll need the territories to come with us. Even shorter wall.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:00 pm
 


Lets break up the country, yea, make those pansy GTA commie wimps pay. Oh, and don't forget BC, Lousy Loony Lefties, but we want the interior, but not Prince George (redskins ya knows). They have to keep Calgary (fagsville, eh) but we want Kenora (and Canora) but not Gravelbourg, Duck Lake or Zenon Park (Franchies... know what I mean). Saskatoon... too many lefties, but we want Winnipeg (Except the north end... bush niggers there). Yeah, that'ell fix 'em....


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:44 pm
 


Reminds me of my kid. Was riding to town and his sister's bike got a flat tire. So he threw it off the bridge into the river. The tire was flat, it was no good anymore.
Fix things? How budget!


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Lets break up the country, yea, make those pansy GTA commie wimps pay.....

Point of order, the west has been made to pay.

As for the rest of your post, stuff it. This has nothing to do with left v right or white vs every other color on your spectrum.

This is about money. Quebec has the most generous social programs in Canada paid for by western working class families. And in return they spit in our eye. They cause us further economic hardship by blocking a pipeline.

Hands off our resources until the attitude changes to one of cooperation, thanks.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:24 pm
 


Robair Robair:

This is about money. Quebec has the most generous social programs in Canada paid for by western working class families. And in return they spit in our eye. They cause us further economic hardship by blocking a pipeline.


Quebec has the most generous social programs? I've often heard that (from Albertans) but yet to see any evidence of it.

Nobody has 'spit in your eye'. You and others act like there's been zero cooperation from anyone East of Alberta with respect to pipelines which is far from the truth.

Why are you guys going easy on BC? Despite doing everything to block pipeline expansion, they're still part of your 'West' group?

What about our First Nations people? Arguably the largest group in Canada opposed to pipeline projects.

Not everything is the fault of the 'East'.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:34 pm
 


Hey Coach, scroll Alllll the way back up to the top of the page. See that map?

Where's all the money going?


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:08 pm
 


Stop with your western facts. They are all Albertan lies and propaganda


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Robair Robair:
fifeboy fifeboy:
Lets break up the country, yea, make those pansy GTA commie wimps pay.....

Point of order, the west has been made to pay.

As for the rest of your post, stuff it. This has nothing to do with left v right or white vs every other color on your spectrum.

This is about money. Quebec has the most generous social programs in Canada paid for by western working class families. And in return they spit in our eye. They cause us further economic hardship by blocking a pipeline.

Hands off our resources until the attitude changes to one of cooperation, thanks.

This shit has been going on for ages. In the beginning it was farmers complaining the 'east' was milking the cow while the west was feeding it. Now its oil and 'we' don't get enough and have to pay for those lazy bastards in Québec and the welfare Atlantic Provinces. I remember moving to Morris Manitoba back in '74. Farmers complaining about 'those eastern bastards' leaving them poverty stricken then driving off in their brand new cars. As the old joke goes, what's the difference between a 747 and a Western Canadian farmer? The 747 stops whining when it lands in Honolulu. Same seems to go with the oil guys.
There was talk going around, back in the Roy Romano days, sour grapes wanting to separate "rural" Saskatchewan from urban, with rural joining the 'real men' in Alberta. Same thing! I want mine and damn the hindmost. Not where I want to go!


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:42 pm
 


Robair Robair:
Hey Coach, scroll Alllll the way back up to the top of the page. See that map?

Where's all the money going?


Manitoba and the Martimes get more “per capita” than Quebec. It’s “per capita “ that matters right?

Again the federal tax is the same in every part of the country. Albertans and westerners do not pay more than anyone else.

Equalization redistributes FEDERAL money to provinces with lower earning potential, topping them up to the national AVERAGE provincial revenue using the AVERAGE provincial tax rate, thei are not ending up with more money than you or able to rax less than you due to receiving equalization. Listening to Albertans whine about not receiving equalization payments is like listening to a rich man whine about not being allowed to collect welfare. You’re fine. Get over yourselves.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:23 pm
 


Robair Robair:
Hey Coach, scroll Alllll the way back up to the top of the page. See that map?

Where's all the money going?


Why did you dodge my questions?


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:15 am
 


Robair Robair:
This map shows a pretty clear line for western separation...

Equalization payments: Quebec gets $13B, four provinces get $0, rest get combined $11B

$1:
he federal government has determined what each province will get in the next fiscal year in the form of equalization payments. But in doing so, it’s re-opened a debate about fiscal fairness. As David Akin reports, Quebec is getting a whopping boost in equalization, while four other provinces are getting nothing.


https://globalnews.ca/video/4749205/equalization-payments-quebec-gets-13b-four-provinces-get-0-rest-get-combined-11b
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This is Fucking Bullshit and it's time to stop Equalization payments to Quebec, enough already! :evil:

FUCK QUEBEC!


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:33 am
 


Coach85 Coach85:

What about our First Nations people? Arguably the largest group in Canada opposed to pipeline projects.

Not everything is the fault of the 'East'.

Except they're not.
https://business.financialpost.com/opin ... st-nations
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cana ... SKCN1GE0IT
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/report- ... e30922185/
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion ... 69-hardly/
https://nationalpost.com/news/first-nat ... nst-ottawa
https://business.financialpost.com/opin ... -heres-why

Meanwhile a similar search using Quebec yielded no usable results. But hey, A for effort. Quebec wants the money but doesn't what to do any work for it. There is a word for that...

But lets keep giving them money, so they don't trow a temper-tantrum, and threaten to leave. They offer so much to the confederation. Sometimes I wish they separated in the 90's.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:38 am
 


BeaverFever BeaverFever:
Robair Robair:
Hey Coach, scroll Alllll the way back up to the top of the page. See that map?

Where's all the money going?


Manitoba and the Martimes get more “per capita” than Quebec. It’s “per capita “ that matters right?

Again the federal tax is the same in every part of the country. Albertans and westerners do not pay more than anyone else.

Equalization redistributes FEDERAL money to provinces with lower earning potential, topping them up to the national AVERAGE provincial revenue using the AVERAGE provincial tax rate, thei are not ending up with more money than you or able to rax less than you due to receiving equalization. Listening to Albertans whine about not receiving equalization payments is like listening to a rich man whine about not being allowed to collect welfare. You’re fine. Get over yourselves.


Except Quebec's economy is out performing Alberta. And you're going to tell me a province of 8.3 million people can't generate the tax income of a province of 4? With a lower tax rate? I know weed is legal, but you can't smoke it all the time. Gotta come up for air sometimes. Next.


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