[N_Fiddledog]

andyt andyt:

Doing a Fiddy, are you? There's nothing new, here, nothing starting, and it's not a backlash,

You mean observing the obvious? Piedmont Park could not have been a backlash against Dallas, because it occurred before the shootings.

If you wish to divert form the thread topic, because the discussion is not going your way though, well...that's your thing, isn't it?

[DrCaleb]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

andyt andyt:

then what is the backlash that Caleb is referring to?

I even underlined it. Social media is now the arbiter of justice. Anything done to a black person is automatically the fault of a white person, regardless of evidence. Not unjustified, because police are under a bit of scrutiny, especially in Georgia.

But the 'suicide' is indeed suspicious, as the park is surrounded by multimillion dollar homes.

Fair enough. So you are proposing backlash on social media against an event separate from Dallas - which was the topic of the thread and what everybody else was discussing.

Why you do that I have no idea, but whatever, I guess.

Because your assumption that I mean the 'backlash' of lynching a black man was as a result of the shootings in Dallas is incorrect. All of your confusion starts with that.

I mean the 'backlash' is that police everywhere can no longer do their jobs without social media forcing a re-check of every bad thing that happens to black people. That's how far things have gone toward distrusting the people tasked with protecting the population.

I even underlined it. I figured that might be clear enough. Guess I was wrong.

[N_Fiddledog]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

I mean the 'backlash' is that police everywhere can no longer do their jobs without social media forcing a re-check of every bad thing that happens to black people. That's how far things have gone toward distrusting the people tasked with protecting the population.

And as I said, fair enough. Those of us who are not mind readers however had to assume a mention of backlash without clear explanation would have to be against the event that was being discussed - the Dallas shootings.

You say that wasn't what you meant and you are not proposing a backlash occurred against the events in Dallas. Again fair enough. Let's move on.

[DrCaleb]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

And as I said, fair enough. Those of us who are not mind readers however had to assume a mention of backlash without clear explanation would have to be against the event that was being discussed - the Dallas shootings.

You say that wasn't what you meant and you are not proposing a backlash occurred against the events in Dallas. Again fair enough. Let's move on.

I was hoping to move on about a page ago.

I think Dallas is also 'backlash', now that we are learning more about the shooter. All the cops shooting black people over the last few years - at least the incidents we see recorded on video - I think have led to this. All the cases of cops just shooting people, tasing people, beating the shit out of people and then saying 'he had a gun' or 'he was resisting'. "He had a broken taillight, let's empty a clip into him!" People have gotten pretty pissed off about it.

Then, some guy decides it's open season on white people, and especially white cops. Backlash.

[N_Fiddledog]

I actually agree. Social Media can fire up tensions, especially amongst people and groups with agendas.

The mainstream media and opinions from influential figures like the President who appear to be supporting such agendas that drive wedges between races can also factor in.

[xerxes]

Agree. As much as I am sickened by the deaths of these five officers, I sadly, can't say I'm terribly surprised either. With the two police shootings dominating the news in the last few days, where two men were killed by police largely for the crime of being black, it's not completely unexpected that someone would try and return the favour.

And now this person who was trying to avenge their deaths, has likely just made the problem exceptionally worse.

[DrCaleb]

In what might be a first; I read that the Dallas police took a bomb disposal robot, put a bomb on it and remotely delivered and detonated it to kill the shooter.

[BartSimpson]

Thanos Thanos:

Texas is an open-carry state and this fucker with some type of AR-15 was apparently seen as the rally was gathering.

"This fucker" is an entirely innocent man.

https://photographyisnotacrime.com/2016 ... of-people/

[Thanos]

Dark and nasty sites are full of ....... interesting comments today, like the ones most heavily armed are now a hair's breadth away from going active. Not saying anything one way or another but this could be the balloon getting ready to go up for real this time.

[OnTheIce]

xerxes xerxes:

Agree. As much as I am sickened by the deaths of these five officers, I sadly, can't say I'm terribly surprised either. With the two police shootings dominating the news in the last few days, where two men were killed by police largely for the crime of being black, it's not completely unexpected that someone would try and return the favour.

That right there is the problem!

We don't have all the facts in either case yet we're all jumping to the conclusion that these guys were simply killed due to being black.

Regardless of race or situation, we need to wait until all the facts come out before we decide to kill a bunch of police over suspicion.

[OnTheIce]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

"This fucker" is an entirely innocent man.

And? He was a suspect and then ruled out. Happens all the time.

He was a suspect because he was walking down the street with an AR-15. Nobody should be surprised.

[Thanos]

Whoever could have thought that taking a group like BLM and having the media and the left wing sacrialize it beyond criticism for the last two years after Ferguson would have had such a negative outcome? I mean, who could have predicted something like this would happen when street politics began to dictate that criminals should be exempt from basic law & order if they're black and, specifically, because they're black? What were they trying to do anyway, copy the Canadian success on the Native reserves where a non-white skin colour just doesn't mean equal rights but innate ownership of "special" rights as well?

Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch open.

[martin14]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

In what might be a first; I read that the Dallas police took a bomb disposal robot, put a bomb on it and remotely delivered and detonated it to kill the shooter.

Yeah, ain't that interesting.

Had to read it twice to believe it.

Damn, that's normally done by terrorists.

Very not nice development.


Next up, they don't send the police, they just drone your ass.

[BartSimpson]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

"This fucker" is an entirely innocent man.

And? He was a suspect and then ruled out. Happens all the time.

He was a suspect because he was walking down the street with an AR-15. Nobody should be surprised.

In Texas walking down a public street with an AR-15 is 100% legal and it is not 'probable cause' for the police chief to issue what was tantamount to a shoot-to-kill order on the man.

http://www.redstate.com/jaycaruso/2016/ ... judgement/

$1:

The photo shows a smiling Hughes, walking with what appears to be a semi-automatic rifle slung across his shoulder.

That is perfectly legal in Texas. Hughes was not one of the shooters but just a person attending the protests. That he was legally armed should not have been a concern to anybody.

Somebody might say, "Well Jay, in the midst of all that was happening, it is reasonable that somebody might think he was dangerous."

Actually, it isn't reasonable at all. Unfortunately, we live in a culture where people have been taught not to fear guns in the way we fear our parents or God - with respect - but to be afraid of guns. Worse, to be irrationally afraid of them. More so when we see somebody carrying one.

Mark Hughes brother was interviewed about him and at one point is asked by a reporter why he took a gun to a peaceful protest and his answer was spot on. He said, "The same reason other people across the country bring their guns. Because it is his right."

Yes, I know you don't like that right but it's a right for us and it's one we've worked hard to protect so law abiding people like Mark Hughes are free to exercise it.

[martin14]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

xerxes xerxes:

Agree. As much as I am sickened by the deaths of these five officers, I sadly, can't say I'm terribly surprised either. With the two police shootings dominating the news in the last few days, where two men were killed by police largely for the crime of being black, it's not completely unexpected that someone would try and return the favour.

That right there is the problem!

We don't have all the facts in either case yet we're all jumping to the conclusion that these guys were simply killed due to being black.

Regardless of race or situation, we need to wait until all the facts come out before we decide to kill a bunch of police over suspicion.

Don't know about Baton Rouge, but the Minn. guy was going for something (wallet)
just after the cop told him not to.

You know, cop is pointing his gun at you, you might want to consider listening to him.