[ShepherdsDog]

$1:

Required Qualifications:
• Aboriginal Certificate Program Graduate
• Early Childhood Certificate Program
• Bachelor of Education and Professional Teaching Certificate
• Eligible for Nunavut Teacher Certificate

My wife was perusing one of the teacher recruitment sites and noticed several jobs had this listed. Would it be acceptable to state, in an adverisement, that only whites of European ancestry need apply for this teaching position, since the school is located in a predominantly white area and the students are predominantly white?

[Benoit]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

Would it be acceptable to state, in an adverisement, that only whites of European ancestry need apply for this teaching position, since the school is located in a predominantly white area and the students are predominantly white?

Affirmative action is needed to redress past wrongs done to the ancestors of persons with specific cultural/natural characteristics.

http://www.newfoundations.com/Clabaugh/ ... ation.html

[Zipperfish]

I don't know if it would be acceptable, but, as a guy who's been explicitly refused a shot at four promotions in my career for being either white or male, I'll buy a beer for the first guy who tries.

[Benoit]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

I don't know if it would be acceptable, but, as a guy who's been explicitly refused a shot at four promotions in my career for being either white or male, I'll buy a beer for the first guy who tries.

Instead, ask for a beer from all the white males who have preceded you on the professional ladder.

[saturn_656]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

$1:

Required Qualifications:
• Aboriginal Certificate Program Graduate
• Early Childhood Certificate Program
• Bachelor of Education and Professional Teaching Certificate
• Eligible for Nunavut Teacher Certificate

My wife was perusing one of the teacher recruitment sites and noticed several jobs had this listed. Would it be acceptable to state, in an adverisement, that only whites of European ancestry need apply for this teaching position, since the school is located in a predominantly white area and the students are predominantly white?

Don't waste your breath, the powers that be have long ago decided that "positive discrimination" is a desirable thing.

While walking all over the rights of a visible minority is a crime of the highest order, doing the same to english speaking caucasians is perfectly fine, actually is some cases it is expected.

Your rights are not considered to be as "important", get used to it.

[ShepherdsDog]

Benoit Benoit:

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

Would it be acceptable to state, in an adverisement, that only whites of European ancestry need apply for this teaching position, since the school is located in a predominantly white area and the students are predominantly white?

Affirmative action is needed to redress past wrongs done to the ancestors of persons with specific cultural/natural characteristics.

http://www.newfoundations.com/Clabaugh/ ... ation.html

Doesn't wash bon nuit. This is about delivering the best qualified teacher to children, not about addressing past injustices.

[Benoit]

saturn_656 saturn_656:

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

$1:

Required Qualifications:
• Aboriginal Certificate Program Graduate
• Early Childhood Certificate Program
• Bachelor of Education and Professional Teaching Certificate
• Eligible for Nunavut Teacher Certificate

My wife was perusing one of the teacher recruitment sites and noticed several jobs had this listed. Would it be acceptable to state, in an adverisement, that only whites of European ancestry need apply for this teaching position, since the school is located in a predominantly white area and the students are predominantly white?

Don't waste your breath, the powers that be have long ago decided that "positive discrimination" is a desirable thing.

While walking all over the rights of a visible minority is a crime of the highest order, doing the same to english speaking caucasians is perfectly fine, actually is some cases it is expected.

Your rights are not considered to be as "important", get used to it.

Get used to it, the master-slave relationship turns itself upside-down once in a while.

[Brenda]

saturn_656 saturn_656:

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

$1:

Required Qualifications:
• Aboriginal Certificate Program Graduate
• Early Childhood Certificate Program
• Bachelor of Education and Professional Teaching Certificate
• Eligible for Nunavut Teacher Certificate

My wife was perusing one of the teacher recruitment sites and noticed several jobs had this listed. Would it be acceptable to state, in an adverisement, that only whites of European ancestry need apply for this teaching position, since the school is located in a predominantly white area and the students are predominantly white?

Don't waste your breath, the powers that be have long ago decided that "positive discrimination" is a desirable thing.

While walking all over the rights of a visible minority is a crime of the highest order, doing the same to english speaking caucasians is perfectly fine, actually is some cases it is expected.

Your rights are not considered to be as "important", get used to it.

Ohhhhh, I can't leave this one alone.....

Don't worry, Shep... In not too long, the "whites" are a visible minority

[Benoit]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

Benoit Benoit:

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

Would it be acceptable to state, in an adverisement, that only whites of European ancestry need apply for this teaching position, since the school is located in a predominantly white area and the students are predominantly white?

Affirmative action is needed to redress past wrongs done to the ancestors of persons with specific cultural/natural characteristics.

http://www.newfoundations.com/Clabaugh/ ... ation.html

Doesn't wash bon nuit. This is about delivering the best qualified teacher to children, not about addressing past injustices.

The best teachers are parents when they have not been rob of their self-respect.

[ShepherdsDog]

Bullshit!! The people you profess to pity will never get any better as long as people like you continue to make excuses for them. You're like the social worker who keeps telling them, 'it's not your fault, there's nothing you can do about your condition, so accept your lot in life.'

[Zipperfish]

Benoit Benoit:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

I don't know if it would be acceptable, but, as a guy who's been explicitly refused a shot at four promotions in my career for being either white or male, I'll buy a beer for the first guy who tries.

Instead, ask for a beer from all the white males who have preceded you on the professional ladder.

Well, easy for you to say. When you're the guy getting shafted, it's a little more difficult to be sanguine about it. I imagine I feel the same way as all those women, blacks and Indians felt about getting shafted out of thier promotions in days past--pissed off.

[Benoit]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Benoit Benoit:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

I don't know if it would be acceptable, but, as a guy who's been explicitly refused a shot at four promotions in my career for being either white or male, I'll buy a beer for the first guy who tries.

Instead, ask for a beer from all the white males who have preceded you on the professional ladder.

Well, easy for you to say. When you're the guy getting shafted, it's a little more difficult to be sanguine about it. I imagine I feel the same way as all those women, blacks and Indians felt about getting shafted out of thier promotions in days past--pissed off.

Bottom line: to pay a beer, you must have the money. Having money because of cultural/natural trait is having undeserved money.

[westmanguy]

I EXTREMELY disagree with affirmative action.

My belief is that the only hiring guidelines an agency, government or private, should have to follow is to hire the person the most qualified/capable to perform the job.

I don't believe one should be or not be hired based on their race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, ethnicity, etc. etc. etc.

I am personally just as appalled when a person IS hired because they are black, then if they are NOT hired because they are black.

And I am a minority in terms of sexual orientation, so don't say I'm a "White, Straight, Male, and don't understand". I would be outraged if the only reason I was hired was because of something like my sexual orientation.

And it shows many natives and minorities in this country have very little self-respect when they have no problem with the fact they have the job because of their skin, gender, whatever.

Damn this subject pisses me off...

[Benoit]

To maximize improvements in Canada, Canada has to empower first those at the bottom. It is at the bottom that the gains can be at its maximum.

[westmanguy]

Equal opportunity: yes.

Not equal outcome.

This is just a nill of an argument as the left bitching that "there is a disproportionate amount of black men in prison"

The demographics don't mean anything when you commit a crime, if black people have a higher rate of committing crime than white people, thats there issues, and doesn't mean we have to "equalize" the system, to have it all proportioned.