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Posts: 11907
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:23 pm
Chumley Chumley: Benoit Benoit: Chumley Chumley: Benoit Benoit: If a race is more intelligent than another one, people belonging to this race deserve lesser wage because they need less efforts to achieve a given goal. So the better you are at something, the less you get for doing it, and the less talented you are, the more you should get for doing it? In a job interview, if you say to the employer that you can do that job easily, s/he will be rational to try to hire you but for a lower compensation than an employee who had used another strategy, argument or lie to get hired at a similar position. If you say you can't do that job easily, they won't want to hire you at all. Hey, I suck at this, pay me more. But as I gain experience and can do it better, pay me less.
Benoits posts are a strong indicator that he has never had a job interview or a job! 
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Posts: 4805
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:54 pm
Affirmative action = Government sanctioned racism against white people, period.
No matter how you slice it, thats what it is. Since when is racism considered acceptable just because white people are the ones that pay the price for it ?
Heres an actual valid complaint that should be filed with the Human Rights Commission.
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Benoit
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:55 pm
Chumley Chumley: Benoit Benoit: Chumley Chumley: Benoit Benoit: If a race is more intelligent than another one, people belonging to this race deserve lesser wage because they need less efforts to achieve a given goal. So the better you are at something, the less you get for doing it, and the less talented you are, the more you should get for doing it? In a job interview, if you say to the employer that you can do that job easily, s/he will be rational to try to hire you but for a lower compensation than an employee who had used another strategy, argument or lie to get hired at a similar position. If you say you can't do that job easily...
Who is stupid enough to use this strategy or argument anyway?
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Chumley
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:56 pm
Benoit Benoit: Chumley Chumley: Benoit Benoit: Chumley Chumley: Benoit Benoit: If a race is more intelligent than another one, people belonging to this race deserve lesser wage because they need less efforts to achieve a given goal. So the better you are at something, the less you get for doing it, and the less talented you are, the more you should get for doing it? In a job interview, if you say to the employer that you can do that job easily, s/he will be rational to try to hire you but for a lower compensation than an employee who had used another strategy, argument or lie to get hired at a similar position. If you say you can't do that job easily Who is stupid enough to use this strategy or argument anyway?
Maybe the same person stupid enough to think they will get paid more for knowing less.
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Benoit
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:57 pm
Chumley Chumley: Benoit Benoit: Chumley Chumley: Benoit Benoit: Chumley Chumley: Benoit Benoit: If a race is more intelligent than another one, people belonging to this race deserve lesser wage because they need less efforts to achieve a given goal. So the better you are at something, the less you get for doing it, and the less talented you are, the more you should get for doing it? In a job interview, if you say to the employer that you can do that job easily, s/he will be rational to try to hire you but for a lower compensation than an employee who had used another strategy, argument or lie to get hired at a similar position. If you say you can't do that job easily Who is stupid enough to use this strategy or argument anyway? Maybe the same person stupid enough to think they will get paid more for knowing less.
Maybe not.
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Benoit
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:11 pm
Race based hiring is tempting because some individual characteristics about prospective employees are unobservable.
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:36 pm
Bodah Bodah: Affirmative action = Government sanctioned racism against white people, period.
No matter how you slice it, thats what it is. Since when is racism considered acceptable just because white people are the ones that pay the price for it ?
Heres an actual valid complaint that should be filed with the Human Rights Commission.
totally agree with you Bodah.. affirmative action like multiculturalism is an easy crutch for alot of immigrants to get whatever.
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Posts: 4805
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:36 pm
Benoit Benoit: Race based hiring is tempting because some individual characteristics about prospective employees are unobservable.
Thats why we have job interviews, black or white, english or french its your time to shine. This should be comon knowledge by now.
If someone can't realize that then, well they dont deserve any job. If they cant perform in an interview, how can the employer feel about the candidates ability to perform in a position with the respective company.
If I ran a "private" company I wont care about skin color or gender, I want to hire the best person for the job. After all, its my money I'm investing and I'm investing it not for fun or to make people "feel" better about their social insecurities. But I'm investing because I expect a return.
Sounds greedy to you I'm sure, but I prefer to look at it as self-preservation.
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Benoit
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:47 pm
Bodah Bodah: Benoit Benoit: Race based hiring is tempting because some individual characteristics about prospective employees are unobservable. Thats why we have job interviews, black or white, english or french its your time to shine. This should be comon knowledge by now. If someone can't realize that then, well they dont deserve any job. If they cant perform in an interview, how can the employer feel about the candidates ability to perform in a position with the respective company. If I ran a "private" company I wont care about skin color or gender, I want to hire the best person for the job. After all, its my money I'm investing and I'm investing it not for fun or to make people "feel" better about their social insecurities. But I'm investing because I expect a return. Sounds greedy to you I'm sure, but I prefer to look at it as self-preservation.
The most important individual characteristics for the employer are unobservable in job interviews either.
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Posts: 7580
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:47 pm
well I am a pretty easy going guy and think people deserve breaks. but when you call a major credit card company and get someone who cant speak english or french at all its fucking disgusting. I mean a job that someone is required to speak on the telephone should require at least a working knowledge of English.
and i am so sick of the visible minority shit.. its another gift point for a job. my wife hires for a company and she says it getting ridiculous.. she has had people call human rights because they didnt get a 2nd interview call back..
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Benoit
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:52 pm
kenmore kenmore: well I am a pretty easy going guy and think people deserve breaks. but when you call a major credit card company and get someone who cant speak english or french at all its fucking disgusting. I mean a job that someone is required to speak on the telephone should require at least a working knowledge of English. and i am so sick of the visible minority shit.. its another gift point for a job.
Gift point is for using a credit card not to get a job. You're confused!
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Posts: 42160
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:43 pm
you haven't got a clue do you?
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Posts: 7580
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:48 pm
I dont know Benoit.. where exactly are you located.. would you be on earth?
jesus man get a grip.. I am saying if you cant speak either of the official fucking languages enough to be understood and understand then no job...
and another point (my sister just reminded me of) is that there are many immigrant owned stores and restaurants that have only immigrant workers of the same nationality.. so where is the justification in this? ---- do white people call and cry discrimination.. doubt it..
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Benoit
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:21 pm
kenmore kenmore: I dont know Benoit.. where exactly are you located.. would you be on earth? jesus man get a grip.. I am saying if you cant speak either of the official fucking languages enough to be understood and understand then no job...
No job offer, no service for you. Learn about job vacancies.
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Posts: 42160
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:29 pm
how the hell can you offer advice on jobs, as you've obviously never held one?
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