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Are you following the Pickton trial?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:53 am
 


There just does not seem to be the same media interest nor public appetite for that sick bastard Robert Pickton as compared to Clifford Olson or even Paul Bernardo. Few of the average nonpolitical types I speak with even know Pickton unless reminded that he is the pig farmer, much less the details surrounding the trial. Even on CKA, a repository of Canadian political weenies there is very little mention of him in relation to his notoriety.

Why?

Are we that desensitised to this type of violence now?

Are we too immoral as a culture to address these types of people so we just stick our heads in the sand?

Or do we just believe that since there will be no justice anyway, what's the point?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:02 am
 


The other one is deleted.... Could have said Please.... :lol:


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:24 am
 


Who ?

Maybe most people are like you and don't need a trial . I think it would be safe to say most Canadians already know he'll never see freedom again . Maybe the most interested are people looking for capital punishment or perhaps the need to feed their sick minds with details .


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:38 am
 


grainfedprairieboy grainfedprairieboy:
There just does not seem to be the same media interest nor public appetite for that sick bastard Robert Pickton as compared to Clifford Olson or even Paul Bernardo. Few of the average nonpolitical types I speak with even know Pickton unless reminded that he is the pig farmer, much less the details surrounding the trial. Even on CKA, a repository of Canadian political weenies there is very little mention of him in relation to his notoriety.

Why?

Are we that desensitised to this type of violence now?

Are we too immoral as a culture to address these types of people so we just stick our heads in the sand?

Or do we just believe that since there will be no justice anyway, what's the point?


So, what do you suggest the answer is to combat psychos in the Nation of Canada?
You think there's an easy answer/solution to everything.
Someone blows up a couple of buildings in the U.S... answer/solution: Blow up a couple of countries. No people, no problem. Stalin said that.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:42 am
 


Banff Banff:
Who ?

Maybe most people are like you and don't need a trial . I think it would be safe to say most Canadians already know he'll never see freedom again . Maybe the most interested are people looking for capital punishment or perhaps the need to feed their sick minds with details .


So let me see if I’ve got your perspective correct.

If you are interested in the trial then you must have already come to the conclusion he is guilty and only advocates of capital punishment are truly interested looking for a way to twist the fate of the victims towards their own selfish political interest or you have to be unstable mentally to be interested in the case?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:02 am
 


One factor is that BC is a long way from Ontario. Most in Ontario have little or no knowledge of Olson...a matter already settled by due process.

My disinterest is based upon several factors....

If he is a public safety threat---he is safely in custody.

I am not relying on the media to pass judgement.....

I am not on the jury and as a result I am in no position to form and express an opinion.....

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:48 am
 


Why should anyone care? This is no Miss Marple mystery and everyone figures he is pretty much guilty and will go to gaol for the the rest of his life so what is there to talk about?

Although if you ask me there are far more people involved than just Pickton. Who actually believes he did all these things by himself? I find that highly unlikely and many people visited his farm some in very high places and many with quite large sums of money. The sick part about that is they most likely paid to watch the killing of these people. You may know the type they have so much money they have nothing better to spend it on. Mr.Pickton is just the fall guy and a perfect one too. He appears to be mentally unstable and of course it was his farm and the bodies were there so naturally he will take the hit. It is just what everyone wants a mad farmer rounding up women (prostitutes) and slaughters them. The papers get their story, the people get to point their finger at the obvious villain, and anyone else really involved gets off scott free and walks away from this mess.

Also to note since they were prostitutes many are not going to hold much a favourabe opinion of them either so many people will not be as sympathetic towards what happened. Some truth to that if they had another profession would they have been killed? Not likely so that remains in the publics thoughts too. He he went and killed 50 children you would see far more of a cry from people.

Anyway so why should I care what happens at this trial? I already know what is going to happen and I will know everyone else most likely associated with this place will hardly face hard time. But if you just want to stare at your tele pointing your finger at the bad man go ahead.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:16 pm
 


It's probably because of the length of the trial. With it slated to take at least a year, it's probably too much to expect that you'll have OJ like coverage.

Mind you, the Vancouver dailies usually have an article about the previous day's proceedings and goings on at trial.

When the trial nears its eventual end, then you'll see more coverage of course.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:31 pm
 


Well Olsen and Bernardo killed children so I imagine that had people more upset.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:10 pm
 


IceOwl IceOwl:
Are you an advocate of capital punishment?



You know I am. I am also in favour of everyone in the capital being punished.

But this is not about that, this is about what I perceive as a serious crime taking place but a comparatively complete lack of interest un it by the public. Though I personally believe people should be more interested this is not about whether it is right or wrong, only why people are not more interested?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:12 pm
 


IceOwl IceOwl:
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Well Olsen and Bernardo killed children so I imagine that had people more upset.


Yeah, cause, y'know, no one cares about a bunch of disenfranchised women whose last avenue of survival was selling their bodies on the street. Oh wait, that's probably what he thought too, as he was killing them.


This is a very serious issue regarding native women. There have been hundreds of unsolved murders and disapperances over the last few decades and nobody really cares, not even the Bands and in some cases, even the families.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:22 pm
 


grainfedprairieboy grainfedprairieboy:
IceOwl IceOwl:
RUEZ RUEZ:
Well Olsen and Bernardo killed children so I imagine that had people more upset.


Yeah, cause, y'know, no one cares about a bunch of disenfranchised women whose last avenue of survival was selling their bodies on the street. Oh wait, that's probably what he thought too, as he was killing them.


This is a very serious issue regarding native women. There have been hundreds of unsolved murders and disapperances over the last few decades and nobody really cares, not even the Bands and in some cases, even the families.



Bang on Grain, if white women were showing up dead in ditches you can bet the police would be on it "Like ugly on an ape". There is no doubt in my mind that their are different laws in Canada for the "Haves" and the "Have nots". It's dispicable that so many innocent woman (I don't care if they were addicts or prostitutes PERIOD they were human beings) were missing or killed and law enforcement states "We don't think their is a link between the crimes". Translation, we don't are if there is because we don't deem their loss of lives worth investigating. Gurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:49 pm
 


I agree Lily that is what I meant by the "have" and "have not", certain segments of society appear be disposable by investigating police agencies. Notice most of these victims are woman?????????


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