[ShepherdsDog]

Biblical_Christian Biblical_Christian:

Your laws and our laws are little bit different, I guess. Cities, and reserves are totally 2 different jurisdictions. You make urs, we make ours. There is lotta whites and other races that have been hired in reserves, you just dont want to see that. We were at this land way before you, so just be happy with, that you are here.

two different jurisdictions? more like two different worlds. Canadian cities are multi ethnic entities where people of different backgrounds, from around the world, get along for the most part and prosper or fail without race being the root cause. The residents of reserve still sees the world in terms of cowboy vs. indian, and haven't come to the realization that they'll never get ahead as long as they're trying to get even.

[novachick]

Biblical_Christian Biblical_Christian:

Your laws and our laws are little bit different, I guess. Cities, and reserves are totally 2 different jurisdictions. You make urs, we make ours. There is lotta whites and other races that have been hired in reserves, you just dont want to see that. We were at this land way before you, so just be happy with, that you are here.

Oh please don't you think it's past time to give up the whole "you bad white person, my land" deal. Look I live in RCMP jurisdiction instead of Regional police . If it makes you happy to think Canadian law doesn't apply to you carry on. Just another way of showing your head up your ass and not facing reality. Keep raising your children to live in the past and not prepare them for life in the real world. Keep them blind with rage so you stunt their ability to succeed in life. Good on you.

[Knoss]

According to Blink by Malcolm Gladwell preconceptions can sub-consciously influence decisions based on hiring. Affirmative action would strengthen these preconceptions.
If employers want to ensure equality I think they should require names, sex, age, and other irrelevant information excluded from resumes. Applicants could provide contact information and receive an applicant number. The person hiring would be unaware of race and race would not impact the decision.

[Biblical_Christian]

kenmore kenmore:

"We were at this land way before you, so just be happy with, that you are here."..........


dont you think its time to give up this crap? you guys have benefitted more than lost in this Canadian deal...the canadian tax payer.. the gift that keeps on giving...

I am really curios, tell me, what do you think we the indians brought to the table? what do you ride on? walk on? Gold, silver, gravel, dirt, all came from this land that we brought to the table. you guys came from a boat, ok? There was more signatorys on the treatys than there is indian signatorys, its so easy to go alziemers, "duh, what signatorys?" why sign? when you are not going honor, ur signature? You guys are the ones that brought the signing honor system, indians never had that, just a handshakes. That was all that was needed. people were good to thier word, something you will never have.

[Biblical_Christian]

novachick novachick:

Biblical_Christian Biblical_Christian:

Your laws and our laws are little bit different, I guess. Cities, and reserves are totally 2 different jurisdictions. You make urs, we make ours. There is lotta whites and other races that have been hired in reserves, you just dont want to see that. We were at this land way before you, so just be happy with, that you are here.

Oh please don't you think it's past time to give up the whole "you bad white person, my land" deal. Look I live in RCMP jurisdiction instead of Regional police . If it makes you happy to think Canadian law doesn't apply to you carry on. Just another way of showing your head up your ass and not facing reality. Keep raising your children to live in the past and not prepare them for life in the real world. Keep them blind with rage so you stunt their ability to succeed in life. Good on you.

I raise my kids different, I tell them " dont fall into what some whites are trying to make you feel, that you are a foriegner, we belong on this soil more than anybody else, dont be uppity about it, just know who you are. nobody is in the wrong here, whites are not in the wrong, indians are not the wrong here, they signed, we signed. (they had more signatorys) it was pure agreement, no more no less. I dont know what they are complaining about, seriously, they had thier end of the deal , signed and delivered, but they wont deliver with with what signed for. Thats all basically all it is. To put it all in a nutshell. I tell my kids, get a job, go to school, do something. We live in a city, I feel at home, from north shore, east shore,west shore south shore, its all my homesoil, youi cant say that, you are a foriegner, face reality. This is not your motherland, its europe, or scotland, or holland, wherever you sailed from.

[Benoit]

Preparing the young to live in a diverse society requires that they encounter teachers that reflect this diversity.

[CommanderSock]

$1:

Preparing the young to live in a diverse society requires that they encounter teachers that reflect this diversity.

Huuh? I seeeeee what youuuu did deere.......


While I don't agree with affirmative action programs, we need some sort until we have an equal education provided to all children. I have always supported no longer taxing small municipalities for schools, but to use a large pool of taxes, such as 100% provincial funding, to provide a level playing field for all. With adequate education, comes adequate demand.

[Benoit]

"Affirmative Action is not meant to help blacks because of the color of their skin, but because they deserve compensation for past and continuing injustices. Opponents may criticize the wisdom of how this compensation is meted out, but they cannot question the principle of compensatory damages, which enjoys a long tradition in our society."

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-reverse ... nation.htm

[Brenda]

Biblical_Christian Biblical_Christian:

This is not your motherland, its europe, or scotland, or holland, wherever you sailed from.

So you are claiming a country where I have never been is my motherland because my ancestors were born there?

That means I have to go back to Indonesia. Do you really mind that I call BS on that one? (Although, that might be not true too... I don't really have sought out my family tree further back than Indonesia...)

Your motherland is the country where you are born. For me, that is Holland, as you well know. For you, that is Canada. Also, I didn't come by boat. Even my aunt came by airplane...

Now quit the BS, will you? Where ever I lay my hat, is my home, and my grandchildren will be Canadian, whether you like it or not, and their motherland will be Canada. Because THEY will be born on Canadian soil. (I assume )

[Benoit]

A difficult moral issue is Haitian women who come to Quebec to give birth so that their child could get the Canadian citizenship.

[Brenda]

That is indeed a moral issue... I know a Dutch gal who came to Canada on a Work Permit, delivered her baby in Calgary, had to go back to Holland because she didn't have her PR status yet. Her child is Dutch-Canadian...

What it gains mom, is that the child can try to sponsor her mom and dad into Canadian Permanent Residency, in 18 years, once she has a job for a couple of years, and can proof to support mom and dad. For 10 years...

And this is why I don't like the Family Class immigration class as it is now, and as is pushed even harder by the government. The skilled workers are being held back, in favour of the Family Class. I think that is wrong, and it should change.

[Zipperfish]

Benoit Benoit:

"Affirmative Action is not meant to help blacks because of the color of their skin, but because they deserve compensation for past and continuing injustices. Opponents may criticize the wisdom of how this compensation is meted out, but they cannot question the principle of compensatory damages, which enjoys a long tradition in our society."

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-reverse ... nation.htm

So now we can't even "question the principle." That sounds a little heavy-handed.

We certainly can question the principle. For any damage done, the reposnible person or persons should be the one who pays, not anyone who happens to be the same colour or gender--that's collective punishment in my opinion.

I don't even think it works. I know in law that many law firms would go out of their way not to hire aboriginal lawyers becasue they had dropped the standards so much in order to get more aboriginals into law school. They viewed aboirginal lawyers as weaker.

[novachick]

Biblical_Christian Biblical_Christian:

novachick novachick:

Biblical_Christian Biblical_Christian:

Your laws and our laws are little bit different, I guess. Cities, and reserves are totally 2 different jurisdictions. You make urs, we make ours. There is lotta whites and other races that have been hired in reserves, you just dont want to see that. We were at this land way before you, so just be happy with, that you are here.

Oh please don't you think it's past time to give up the whole "you bad white person, my land" deal. Look I live in RCMP jurisdiction instead of Regional police . If it makes you happy to think Canadian law doesn't apply to you carry on. Just another way of showing your head up your ass and not facing reality. Keep raising your children to live in the past and not prepare them for life in the real world. Keep them blind with rage so you stunt their ability to succeed in life. Good on you.

I raise my kids different, I tell them " dont fall into what some whites are trying to make you feel, that you are a foriegner, we belong on this soil more than anybody else, dont be uppity about it, just know who you are. nobody is in the wrong here, whites are not in the wrong, indians are not the wrong here, they signed, we signed. (they had more signatorys) it was pure agreement, no more no less. I dont know what they are complaining about, seriously, they had thier end of the deal , signed and delivered, but they wont deliver with with what signed for. Thats all basically all it is. To put it all in a nutshell. I tell my kids, get a job, go to school, do something. We live in a city, I feel at home, from north shore, east shore,west shore south shore, its all my homesoil, youi cant say that, you are a foriegner, face reality. This is not your motherland, its europe, or scotland, or holland, wherever you sailed from.

Ummm I was born in Nova Scotia. Thats reality. I am a Canadian. Thats reality. This is my motherland. That's reality. You are Canadian. Your Children are Canadian. This is your and their motherland. That's reality. To suggest this is not my home soil is ludicrous.

[Benoit]

What we have to acknowledge is that Canada is now a country where the citizenship status is very valuable in part because Europeans colonizers have neglected (and are still neglecting) the fundamental rights of other peoples.

[novachick]

Benoit Benoit:

What we have to acknowledge is that Canada is now a country where the citizenship status is very valuable in part because Europeans colonizers have neglected (and are still neglecting) the fundamental rights of other peoples.

Show me where that is happening. Show me where the fundamental rights and freedoms according to the constitution of this country are biased.