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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:34 pm
 


No, by keeping in line you do not let religious ideals dictate government policy. Look at the United States, they let the fanatics get out of control and before you knew it they were teaching creationism in school. Due to that little chestnut Americans are looking like ignorant fools when it comes to science. I don’t want people to think about Canada the same way.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:43 pm
 


Eisensapper Eisensapper:
Yes you got it right Bart, I want to personally line up all theists make them dig their own graves and then exterminate them. Hell you know what lets have the mothers clutch their babies to their chests so we can kill two theists with one bullet.

Statements like yours make me sick. To think you can try relate the extermination of 9 million (a conservative estimate) Jews to a discussion on a Secular Government, makes me feel utter contempt for you. What in your right mind you let you think its ok to compare one of the darkest moments in human history to the right to keep church and state separate? There is a reason why people follow Godwin's Law, you fuck.


You're the one who proposed 'keeping them in line'.

The reality is that you will not be able to do this. And when you're confronted with the Christians who choose to fight back what are you going to do with them?

See, every time some tyrant comes down the pike with some cute little ideas those cute little ideas inevitably include stomping the hell out of someone who doesn't care for those ideas. Right now the fascists in Canada use the CHRC to push their agenda and myself I'm just waiting for the day when some one of your HRC commissioners gets a little lead with their coffee and then we'll see what you people are really made of.

Christians have fought wars for their rights and their lives for a long time, you people are Johnny-come latelies to the world of reality.

You want to keep anyone in line and it will always require force.

So don't lie to me and, more importantly, don't lie to yourself and think that you can put anyone in their place without paying a price.

If that offends you then too damned bad. Your comment offended me and you don't hear me whining about it.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:47 pm
 


Eisensapper Eisensapper:
No, by keeping in line you do not let religious ideals dictate government policy. Look at the United States, they let the fanatics get out of control and before you knew it they were teaching creationism in school. Due to that little chestnut Americans are looking like ignorant fools when it comes to science. I don’t want people to think about Canada the same way.


Creationism is not being taught in any US public school. And don't worry, no one mistakes Canada for being anything like the USA.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:50 pm
 


Zipperfish Zipperfish:
And... Godwinned. That's it for this thread. Thanks for coming all. Safe drive home.


I can post the pictures of the Chinese killing a bunch of Tibetans if it'll make you feel better.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:51 pm
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Eisensapper Eisensapper:
No, by keeping in line you do not let religious ideals dictate government policy. Look at the United States, they let the fanatics get out of control and before you knew it they were teaching creationism in school. Due to that little chestnut Americans are looking like ignorant fools when it comes to science. I don’t want people to think about Canada the same way.


Creationism is not being taught in any US public school. And don't worry, no one mistakes Canada for being anything like the USA.


Intelligent design is being taught in U.S. schools and I'm happy no one mistakes Canada for the U.S.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:56 pm
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
You're the one who proposed 'keeping them in line'.


The term "to keep one in line" does not commonly refer to the practice of summary execution. It means to control others, or to compel them to conform (as if into a straight line."


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If you think that the only way to keep religion out of government is by force, you need help my friend. Canada has been doing a pretty good job of it by not using much force other then the constitution.

Ya the crusades went well for Christians rights didn't it, oh how about the fact that the Nazi regime was heavily Christian, Hitler was a Catholic. The Vatican turned a blind eye to the Holocaust. Don’t come screaming at me about secularists wanting to exterminate Christians.

Why is it that some people think they can ram religion down your throat and when you say I dont want religion to influence my government, I am accusing of being Hitler. My original statement was against fundamentalist Christians, not your moderate Christian anyway. So unless you see yourself as a bible thumping fire and brimstone evangelical I dont see what offended you.

Your " Johnny-come latelies " argument makes no sense its like you assume agnostism and atheism are constructs that sprung up over night. You are whining about it, or you wouldnt have stooped to calling me Hitler.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:00 pm
 


Zipperfish Zipperfish:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
You're the one who proposed 'keeping them in line'.


The term "to keep one in line" does not commonly refer to the practice of summary execution. It means to control others, or to compel them to conform (as if into a straight line."


And, again, what happens to those who refuse to conform?


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:00 pm
 


In all seriousness I think Eisensapper was hardly suggesting a genocide against Christians. To equate it with National Socialism trivializes the Holocaust and paints him with an unfair brush.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:03 pm
 


Eisensapper Eisensapper:
or you wouldnt have stooped to calling me Hitler.


I would not compare you to Hitler. He knew how to spell Oberstabsgefreiter.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:03 pm
 


Let's not forget that that fine exemplar of Christian virtue, namely BartSimpson, has argued - at length - in favour of the extermination of all Muslims. :roll:


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:05 pm
 


Mustang1 Mustang1:
In all seriousness I think Eisensapper was hardly suggesting a genocide against Christians.


Then what did he propose? Depriving them of the right to vote? The right to free speech? The right to peaceably assemble? The right to teach their children from the Bible?

What he definitely proposed was infringing on their rights in some fashion that would accomplish 'keeping them in their place'.

And, again, what would he do with those people who declined to be kept in their place?


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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Eisensapper Eisensapper:
or you wouldnt have stooped to calling me Hitler.


I would not compare you to Hitler. He knew how to spell Oberstabsgefreiter.

What does the german version of PFC have to do with anything?


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:08 pm
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Mustang1 Mustang1:
In all seriousness I think Eisensapper was hardly suggesting a genocide against Christians.


Then what did he propose? Depriving them of the right to vote? The right to free speech? The right to peaceably assemble? The right to teach their children from the Bible?

What he definitely proposed was infringing on their rights in some fashion that would accomplish 'keeping them in their place'.

And, again, what would he do with those people who declined to be kept in their place?


It would seem that he hardly suggested the Nuremberg Laws or Auschwitz, that's for sure. I'm not here to put words into his posts, but I'm assuming it meant conformity to standard, enlightened, accepted, secularized society.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:09 pm
 


Streaker Streaker:
Let's not forget that that fine exemplar of Christian virtue, namely BartSimpson, has argued - at length - in favour of the extermination of all Muslims. :roll:


Yeah, yeah, yeah. How many times must that be taken out of context? Whatever. :roll:


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