[2Cdo]

andyt andyt:

Brenda Brenda:

That is ridiculous.
It is discriminatory too. They can't ask you if you are gay during an interview, but when they "find out", they can fire you for it "because it might harm the company"?

They can't fire you for being gay, a woman, black, for your religion, or any of those things. But if a company wants you gone, they'll find ways to do it anyway.

But they will still have to justify it. And a lot more companies today that engage in this "find something" behavior are being successfully sued in wrongful dismissal cases.

[2Cdo]

Brenda Brenda:

andyt andyt:

Brenda Brenda:

That is ridiculous.
It is discriminatory too. They can't ask you if you are gay during an interview, but when they "find out", they can fire you for it "because it might harm the company"?

They can't fire you for being gay, a woman, black, for your religion, or any of those things. But if a company wants you gone, they'll find ways to do it anyway.

That's exactly my point.

Read my post above.

[Brenda]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Brenda Brenda:

It does not matter what YOU said. My hypothetical example "hurts the company" financially, because it lost a customer.

IT STILL DOESN'T REFLECT THE COMPANY. That's the difference which you are failing to see.

Your little tidbit:

$1:

If what you're doing on your own time can potentially hurt the company either financially, or professionally, then I'm afraid they do have that right to terminate your employment.

$1:

$1:

ANY personal opinion can hurt any company. So shut up? Nice.

Again, show me where I said you can't show any opinion. What you, and others who think this is ridiculous, keep missing is that we do have free speech but you will be held accountable for the words you say.

Legally, yes. When you say something that is illegal, fine.

This guy was fired because a woman half a country away found something he said offensive. Not illegal, just offensive. How is firing him correct?

[2Cdo]

Brenda Brenda:

This guy was fired because a woman half a country away found something he said offensive. Not illegal, just offensive. How is firing him correct?

Now show me were I said in his case it was correct. I said I had no sympathy for him but offered no opinion on legality.

[andyt]

Brenda Brenda:

This guy was fired because a woman half a country away found something he said offensive. Not illegal, just offensive. How is firing him correct?

Because it does reflect badly on the company. Different culture here than in Holland, I guess. Not sure which is better. In Holland, let's say a company produces kosher goods, and one of their employees posts ugly but not illegal stuff about Jews, would and should they have to keep him on? This area seems like a tough one to decide.

[Brenda]

andyt andyt:

Brenda Brenda:

This guy was fired because a woman half a country away found something he said offensive. Not illegal, just offensive. How is firing him correct?

Because it does reflect badly on the company. Different culture here than in Holland, I guess. Not sure which is better. In Holland, let's say a company produces kosher goods, and one of their employees posts ugly but not illegal stuff about Jews, would and should they have to keep him on? This area seems like a tough one to decide.

They would have to let a judge decide.

[Brenda]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

andyt andyt:

Brenda Brenda:

That is ridiculous.
It is discriminatory too. They can't ask you if you are gay during an interview, but when they "find out", they can fire you for it "because it might harm the company"?

They can't fire you for being gay, a woman, black, for your religion, or any of those things. But if a company wants you gone, they'll find ways to do it anyway.

But they will still have to justify it. And a lot more companies today that engage in this "find something" behavior are being successfully sued in wrongful dismissal cases.

Isn't that the wrong way around tho?
Wouldn't it be more fair to have the employer ask a judge to let people go, instead of the unlawfully fired employee sue a wrongful dismissal?

[Brenda]

andyt andyt:

Brenda Brenda:

This guy was fired because a woman half a country away found something he said offensive. Not illegal, just offensive. How is firing him correct?

Because it does reflect badly on the company.

I don't even know which company we are talking about, so isn't the company just being a bit touchy?

$1:

Different culture here than in Holland, I guess. Not sure which is better. In Holland, let's say a company produces kosher goods, and one of their employees posts ugly but not illegal stuff about Jews, would and should they have to keep him on? This area seems like a tough one to decide.

DEFINITELY a different culture.
This guy however, did not say anything bad about the company or what it produces. He shared a personal opinion, on his own time, about something totally unrelated.
(however, an inappropriate opinion.)

[2Cdo]

Brenda Brenda:

Isn't that the wrong way around tho?

You want to force companies, who wish to fire someone, to use an already slow as molasses legal system?
I have another question, Are you fucking nuts?

$1:

Wouldn't it be more fair to have the employer ask a judge to let people go, instead of the unlawfully fired employee sue a wrongful dismissal?

No it wouldn't, but it would slow things down to the point where a person could retire before a judge rules that he could be fired!

[martin14]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Brenda Brenda:

Isn't that the wrong way around tho?

You want to force companies, who wish to fire someone, to use an already slow as molasses legal system?
I have another question, Are you fucking nuts?

No, just Dutch.

A lot of Euros think this way, one of the reason they are doing so well
these days.

[Brenda]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Brenda Brenda:

Isn't that the wrong way around tho?

You want to force companies, who wish to fire someone, to use an already slow as molasses legal system?
I have another question, Are you fucking nuts?

I think it is too easy to fire people in Canada, so yes, I would.
When you can just fire people for saying something in their own time, yes.

$1:

$1:

Wouldn't it be more fair to have the employer ask a judge to let people go, instead of the unlawfully fired employee sue a wrongful dismissal?

No it wouldn't, but it would slow things down to the point where a person could retire before a judge rules that he could be fired!

Ruling within 2 months or something.

Just because Canada is 20 years behind with so many things, doesn't mean that they shouldn't keep up

[2Cdo]

martin14 martin14:

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Brenda Brenda:

Isn't that the wrong way around tho?

You want to force companies, who wish to fire someone, to use an already slow as molasses legal system?
I have another question, Are you fucking nuts?

No, just Dutch.

A lot of Euros think this way, one of the reason they are doing so well
these days.

[Brenda]

martin14 martin14:

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Brenda Brenda:

Isn't that the wrong way around tho?

You want to force companies, who wish to fire someone, to use an already slow as molasses legal system?
I have another question, Are you fucking nuts?

No, just Dutch.

A lot of Euros think this way, one of the reason they are doing so well
these days.

The Netherlands is actually doing fine.

[2Cdo]

Brenda Brenda:

Just because Canada is 20 years behind with so many things, doesn't mean that they shouldn't keep up

I'd say we're quite a bit ahead of the curve if you look at our economy. I think Martin nailed it!

[2Cdo]

Brenda Brenda:

The Netherlands is actually doing fine.

Of course. Other than those pesky Muslim enclaves and the price of gas and food more than double ours.